from what bob has stated i believe the new fin keels will look a lot like MOTU ITI - http://www.msogphotosite.com/motuiti.html i do agree that the fin keels do point higher and are a bit stiffer to a CB version on the same wind. during the '07 san juan cruise the M15/M17/M23 CB versions would all set the same point to the wind ... MOTU ITI pointed higher. dave scobie M15 #288 - SCRED visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Carlos <cnavarro24@adelphia.net> wrote: Thanks for the insight Ron. I am interested to see the new M17 fin keel Bob Eeg is building. I wonder if it too will have the 39" draft?? Sounds like you have a great boat and great set up at your home. Where do you live, as you mentioned a boat dock in front and a village you live in. Sounds neat! Thanks, Carlos