Steve, I don't know about real men, or real sailor-persons. But I know I don't get enough time to sail. When I'm out, I like to actually sail the boat - not just crew. If I just wanted to crew, I could save a lot of hassle and cash. Sure, there are times when it's nice to have someone/something do the steering for a few minutes. But I also try to remember the first commandment of sailing: The smaller and more simple it is, the more you will use it! :-) Bill Riker M15 - #184 Storm Petrel -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Steve Shenkel Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:14 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: Auto Pilot mounting I am curious about how others have mounted their auto pilots on M17's. I have an older Navico Tiller-pilot and at first glance the coaming is too far away, and the cockpit seat in too far below the tiller for any convenient mounting arrangement? How have others accomplished this? Or do real men (M17 sailor-persons) not require stinking autopilots? Steve Shenkel Steve Shenkel Director of Manufacturing 7432 E.Tierra Buena Lane, Suite 101 Scottsdale, AZ 85260 Phone: 480 998-2333 Fax: 480 998-2201 www.appliedphotonics.com The Cutting Edge in Laser Technology _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats