Is the winch out of production? (Silly question,,, of course they are, otherwise you'd just order one). Places carrying used gear like Bacon Sails in Annapolis ( http://www.baconsails.com/index.html ) might be able to help. There is somewhere else on Back Creek, but I can't remember the name right now. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of wayne yeargain Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:16 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Old M-17 Speaking of m17 winches, my winch handle was missing when I bought my boat & the standard winch handles available at W. M. & BOATS US are too large to fit in the socket. Does anyone have one for sale or know of a source. I'm not getting younger and the keel on my '76 weighs #350 I'm told. Pulling that thing up by hand is a chore. Wayne M17 "Intrepid" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smith, Tom" <Tom.Smith@itron.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: New Old M-17 Well, the M centerboards are similar in that they both drop out of a trunk located in the ballasted shallow draft keel, but how they lower/stay in the lowered position/raise is very different. The M15 is simpler and lighter and is lowered/suspended/raised and suspended in the raised position with a pendant. A knot in the pendant keeps the cb in the proper, lowered position. The M17 cb is heavy and requires the assistance of a winch (or heck, a good wench will do the trick too probably) to lower/raise. The M17 cb is kept in its proper, lowered position by a tang that contacts a stopper bolt--the pendant is only used to lower it and raise it and secure it in the raised position. There is probably no more discussed topic (aside from towing vehicles and outboard motors) in the M archives--search them for more info. Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: Rusty Knorr [mailto:mazemusic@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:23 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Old M-17 Hey, Howard. Does the centerboard/trunk on the M-15 look and work the same way? Thanks, Rusty --- Howard Audsley <haudsley@tranquility.net> wrote:
Bill:
To get an idea of what it all looks like down there, take a look at the centerboard pictures on the MSOG website:
http://www.msog.org/models/m17/m-17-cb.cfm
I too have often wondered if the sticking board problem on some boats is due to marine growth and not a swelling of the cast iron ballast in the trunk.
Howard M17, #278
On 10/22/03 6:37 PM, "Bill Sylvester" <wmcsyl1@cox.net> wrote:
Larry,
The old M-17 has been sitting in her slip, unused, for over two years. I am concerned that some marine critters have attached themselves to the inside of the trunk. If they are hard shelled they might bind the board. How much of the trunk is underwater? If it is only the first couple of inches, there might not be enough growth to matter. We will see.
Thanks, Bill
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