Daniel: that is a lot of leverage for a cunningham ... like way way more than needed. on my M15 i needed nothing more than just a line run from the port side strap eye to a clam-cleat on the starboard side. the same holds true for my M17. the Sage 17s use a similar system ... just adding a snatch block and turning block to run the cunningham aft. never had an issue adjusting the main's luff tension. IMO a workable method to work with the M15's sliding gooseneck fitting is to find a length of line that just holds the boom to the height you want when raising the sail (need a stop to keep the gooseneck fitting to not crash down to the base of the mast when lowering the main or putting in a reef).? this 'fixed line' method is what i use on my M17. the best method for working with the M15's sliding gooseneck is to replace with a fixed gooseneck fitting. this is what i did when i built a new standing rig for the Glesser's M15. the limitations with the sliding gooseneck is why the Sage 17 has a fixed gooseneck (and why one day i'll convert my M17 to a fixed gooseneck. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 11/16/13, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote: Montypals: I am doing some re-rigging of M15 Kestrel. Just received my sails from JudyB and Hyde a few weeks ago. Sadly, the jib is too big! So, it is being remade. Just one of those things. In any event, I am going to set up a 3-1 outhaul per a previous photo supplied by one of you guys. Looks good. But I am grappling with the best way to set up a better downhaul. My current setup is a 2-1 going only through the cunningham. Basically there is an eyestrap on one side of the mast, and the line goes from there up through the cringle, and then down to a jam cleat. Not a very nice setup, and the thing is too high anyway so the purchase is not good. I want to get perhaps 4-1, but don’t want to lead it aft. I am just having a hard time visualizing the thing. A cascading system would work I think, but I just have a hard time understanding the geometry. Furthermore, easy rigging and derigging is a must. I want to use the downhaul instead, since there is a ring on my floating gooseneck for that purpose, and that should work as well or better than the cunningham. I will mount much lower on the mast. Any ideas here?? -- Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel"