Re. Barber haul / In haul Quote from J -105 Owners Group - "The class doesn't specifically prohibit inhauling, but doesn't allow an inhauler rig. You can get good results by using the lazy sheet on the opposite winch. This is very effective at improving point." Discussions found as to inhaul (technically the opposite of Barber haul - Barber haul - for outboard lead & inhaul - for inboard lead) for the headsails on J-105 as a One Design (neither 'haul' is allowed in class rules) and PHRF (typically allowed). Be sure to allow for some twist at the upper leech in heavy air and waves.
From Viper 640 Group - "use the lazy sheet to pull the foot of the jib inboard"
Lazy sheet method seems best - no additional hardware - snap shackles on sheets or clew in heavy air is a recipe for damage and possible injury IMO ( have witnessed the ugly result of a flailing shackle and a crew's face - horrible!). Have Fun Go Sailing - GO In a message dated 3/12/2015 12:41:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, jdavies104@gmail.com writes: Tom, The barber hauler is a good idea. Has anyone deployed one on an M17? If so, I'd be interested in the setup. Will it work with a roller furled genoa with an adjustable jib sheet car? Regarding reefing, I've sailed Lynne L in a 15-18 kt breeze gusting to around 25 in short, steep river chop with a single reefed main and the genoa rolled up to around 80 to 90, and she foots easily to windward at 4.5 kt. Did get kinda wet, though . . . Seems like sailing with the jib alone would be pretty unbalanced. Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks, Rick M17 #633 Lynne L On Thursday, March 12, 2015, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com');>> wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, Tom. I have flown jibs with a pendant before. Reefing the main sounds like a good idea always. A double reef sometimes maybe? How long are the supports (cannot think of that term) for the roach on the jib? I once had a row of reef points put in a 110 jib when I owned a Flicka. That worked quite well also, it let the boat sail on her lines better in a stiff wind. Be very interesting to see how high I could point with an 80 in front of a reefed main with a barber hauler closing the angle to about 10degrees on the jib. Fun in little boats!
Fair winds, Tom B
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Tom Smith <openboatt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tom. I've sailed under small headsail alone a few times (the boat still points quite well...), but prefer to reef the main when sailing in higher winds. The luff of the jib Don built for me is a foot or 18 inches short of the full length of the fore-stay, and I use a length of pendent at the tack so I have a bit of viewing distance under the sail. Works good, and I understand most of the work is being performed at the top of the sail anyway. t
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Don Yager sent me a description of the 80% jib he built for Tom Smith. It sounds "bomb proof" and of excellent quality. He said I could use it to sail back (up wind) when conditions did not permit use of an outboard, too much wave action I presume. Tom or anybody, have you used just a jib to sail to windward in blustery conditions? Seems like with the lee helm generated (?) you couldn't point very high with just that jib set. Is that "80" cut high enough so you can see under it when heeled over? It is pricey but having been blown down wind from my take out point at one time (was not flying a jib, just the main on my 17) I know that isn't much fun.
fair winds, Tom B, Mont.17 #258, "AS IS"