Ditto, CD Typhoons (and other CD's) are beautiful . . . Lest my tiresome ramblings confuse people, I know that Alberg was the designer of the Typhoon, but metioned the other designers in the context of trying to figure out which marine architect compared the Typhoon to the M17 in "G.O.B" . . . I don't understand how anyone WOULDN'T be aesthetically pleased by a boat with long overhangs and classic shear, but that's just me (with expensive William Fife coffee-table book sitting on my shelf) . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "William B. Riker" <wriker@mindspring.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 5:53 PM Subject: monty vs cape dory typhoon Tod, When I was sailing out of Rocky River, and before I understood the M15 very well, I had a run in with a Typhoon. I was heading SE toward the Rocky River entrance, off the wind, and noticed a smallish boat behind me. It overtook me in a surprisingly (to me) rapid fashion. It was a Typhoon. I love their lines and capable looks, but not their fixed draft, small cabin and trailer-ability, or lack thereof. Bill Riker M15 #184 Storm Petrel -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of htmills@bright.net Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 9:33 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: monty vs cape dory typhoon I personally think the Cape Dorys are some of the prettiest production boats out there, but, as others have said, they are very different kinds of boats. I haven't sailed on a typhoon although I have seen them on the water. In fact, before I had Busca I was sailing with Bill on Storm Petrel in Lake Erie when we were trounced by a typhoon. The wind was very light and the water very choppy from powerboat wakes. We couldn't get Storm Petrel to quit pitching long enough to keep wind in her sails but the typhoon glided past us as easy and steady as can be. However, I think that situation is probably one of very few where a typhoon would be faster than an M-15. I know the Cape Dory 33 I was on last summer was routinely passed by smaller boats. All the typhoon sailors I've heard talk about their boats speak very highly of them, but then the same seems to be true of Montgomerys. Cape Dory cockpits are not nearly as ergonomic as the Montgomerys, especially the 17. It sure seems to me that there is someone on the list who has actually owned both a Typhoon and an M-17....??? Harvey? I would definitely try to sail aboard both boats before buying because the differences are mostly in handling, aesthetics, and ergonomics, all very personal preferences. Before I bought my Tartan 26, I was leaning towards a Cape Dory 27 but two weeks aboard the Cape Dory 33 changed my mind. (of course, I haven't sailed the Tartan yet, something I wish I had done; who knows, it may be on the market next summer!) Tod www.bright.net/~htmills/ M17 #408 BuscaBrisas