On 8/10/19 9:41 PM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote: ...
I’ve been considering moving to a Scamp, but still debating if that’s a good idea or not. With a boom tent possibly more room than the cabin of an M-15? Beachable for those times you want to bring your wife and camp ashore? Or use filler boards for a huge double berth! Easier to tow, small enough to put in my garage, and part of an instant community, the Scamp is compelling! I’ll keep the Monty for now and deal with it’s compromises, but if a fiberglass Scamp comes up for sale for a great deal I may make the jump and sell my M-15.
Thoughts?
Maybe Daniel Rich can chime in on the SCAMP...if you're still here Daniel...have you splashed that SCAMP yet? No pressure! Just curious ;-) For camp cruising there are a lot of options, many lighter and a bit roomier than a SCAMP (and easier to build if you're building yourself). Goat Island Skiff; CLC Skerry, or Northwester dory; Norseboat 17.5 (factory dodger, bimini, and tent setups available); Jersey Skiff; etc. If you want a ballasted keel boat, then the hauling weight goes up, unless like the SCAMP it's water ballast. I have been on a guy named Simeon's SCAMP, #11 I think it is. The cockpit is plenty roomy, since most of the boat is cockpit. There's just the storage cuddy with overhanging "veranda" roof up front. If you're more than average height, you can't actually sit upright with your upper half under the cover of the little "veranda." I think at about six feet and up (depending on torso vs. leg length) your head will be bumping the ceiling. I heard that a few tall SCAMP builders raised that roof by a couple inches on their builds so they would fit under it sitting up. The rig is wonderfully simple and performs quite well (balanced lug rig is having a renaissance in recent years). With the water ballast full, it has a definite keelboat feel to its movement. I only got to sail it briefly, in fairly light air. But you can see the videos of Howard Rice capsize testing the prototype, with double reef, in wild wind and whitecaps in the Columbia Gorge, and tell that it is quite rough weather worthy (with a savvy skipper anyhow). I would consider it a great solo micro camp-cruiser that one could easily camp-sleep aboard, beach, rest on tidal flats, etc. Some people have made some pretty sophisticated tent tops for theirs (way beyond a tarp over boom tent). But the production glass version is $$$, and the DIY build is a fairly major project. Two people who comfortably share a backpacking tent could probably cruise together in a SCAMP. But as someone posted earlier in this thread, that probably applies to an M15 as well... cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com