Benneck your being a dick On February 5, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck@gmail.com> wrote: On 2/5/2021 2:34 PM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
I’m hitting reply so people can see how long it was to scroll to the bottom of 17 reply/untrimmed messages. I apologize to the group for coming across too harshly. I lost my father unexpectedly a couple of days ago and I’m under incredible stress. That being said, when things devolve into private conversations about airplanes on a public forum specifically for Montgomery boats...I’m done. I’ve unsubscribed in the past for this reason after selling my M-15, despite thoroughly enjoying the actual M boats discussions that I’m able to wade through, and I joined up again after buying a second M-15 that is now also gone. I just don’t have time to spend my life scrolling past unrelated content, our lives are filled with too much of that as it is.
Dave Scobie, please unsubscribe me. You all enjoy yourselves, and tell your family members you love them. Never forget that life is short, don’t waste it.
Rusty
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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:19:05 -0800 From: Rusty Knorr <rustyinafrica@yahoo.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: New Posts!!! Message-ID: <6D3D17AC-0E73-4038-A512-721EC5CCDDEB@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Sorry, but what does this have to do with transporting a Monty, or a rudder? Can we really not take the time to trim a post or start a new one? This makes it impossible to search info you need in archives, massively clogs up the daily digest with endless reply streams, is lazy and is super annoying. We literally need a monthly reminder to TRIM YOUR POSTS, START A NEW THREAD WITH A NEW SUBJECT.
This isn?t hard people.
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:23:54 -0600 From: <msogggf@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <601af84a.1c69fb81.7e3c9.4c8a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 14:05:09 -0600 From: Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> To: Rusty Knorr <rustyinafrica@yahoo.com>, For and about MontgomerySailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Posts!!! Message-ID: <601c5376.1c69fb81.5971b.9ec1@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hello Rusty. I do apologize for my post using the reply method. I actually wanted to start a new thread with a new subject but couldn?t figure out how to do that.
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From: Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 1:19 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: New Posts!!!
Sorry, but what does this have to do with transporting a Monty, or a rudder? Can we really not take the time to trim a post or start a new one? This makes it impossible to search info you need in archives, massively clogs up the daily digest with endless reply streams, is lazy and is super annoying. We literally need a monthly reminder to TRIM YOUR POSTS, START A NEW THREAD WITH A NEW SUBJECT.
This isn?t hard people.
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:23:54 -0600 From: <msogggf@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <601af84a.1c69fb81.7e3c9.4c8a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
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Message: 3 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 20:15:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Stan Susman <stanpfa@pacbell.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Posts!!! Message-ID: <1016951476.1821352.1612469736554@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
it's not clear to me either, but thats just me maybe On Thursday, February 4, 2021, 12:05:47 PM PST, Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Rusty.? I do apologize for my post using the reply method.? I actually wanted to start a new thread with a new subject but couldn?t figure out how to do that.
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From: Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 1:19 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: New Posts!!!
Sorry, but what does this have to do with transporting a Monty, or a rudder? Can we really not take the time to trim a post or start a new one? This makes it impossible to search info you need in archives, massively clogs up the daily digest with endless reply streams, is lazy and is super annoying. We literally need a monthly reminder to TRIM YOUR POSTS, START A NEW THREAD WITH A NEW SUBJECT.
This isn?t hard people.
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:23:54 -0600 From: <msogggf@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ? ? <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft ? ? rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <601af84a.1c69fb81.7e3c9.4c8a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17.? ? I want to order one that I know will fit.? Does anybody have any suggestions?
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Message: 4 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 12:29:29 -0800 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: how to start a new post/email Message-ID: <CAGjBOA6tBusPA8nSgwJ2-2R14R8PDW0XMPU1J+-5+kgfDGF2iw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hi GaryF.
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On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 12:06 PM Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Rusty. I do apologize for my post using the reply method. I actually wanted to start a new thread with a new subject but couldn?t figure out how to do that.
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From: Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 1:19 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: New Posts!!!
Sorry, but what does this have to do with transporting a Monty, or a rudder? Can we really not take the time to trim a post or start a new one? This makes it impossible to search info you need in archives, massively clogs up the daily digest with endless reply streams, is lazy and is super annoying. We literally need a monthly reminder to TRIM YOUR POSTS, START A NEW THREAD WITH A NEW SUBJECT.
This isn?t hard people.
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Message: 5 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 12:39:04 -0800 From: Gail Russell <gail@zeliga.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: how to start a new post/email Message-ID: <CAKCiK2JuiE-wxtpd_kVT1sQq5+WohH-476_h8N7By1GNW8MBqQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Or reply, but erase all previous parts of the message unless you want to keep a selected bit to create immediately accessible context. I am guilty here as well. I do find the erasure method easier than using the montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com and entering a new subject line. YMMV.
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Message: 6 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:05:02 -0600 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <CA+TbpAW6nuFJBcpTBvKz21S=SeT5CR+4J3Ai=kDD3FQKVkoZdg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
OOPS, just read this email. Did not mean to cause trouble with your wife who wants to be there when you risk your life.? We can sail around here together. My wife may even accompany us since yours will be too. She would have someone to talk to. Oh yeah, I am 74, been retired for about ten years and am trying to stay in some sort of shape. I have most everything on my MOnty set up for single handing with a whole lot of "back work". My wife is understanding bout her todo list, fortunately.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 11:03 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
Edward, I am retired, so my dear loving and loved wife does like her peace and quiet with me out of ?our? house, but she is a worrier and wants to watch when I kill myself - so no single-handing; that?s why I bought an M17 rather than an M15. I love the M15 and like the M17. She thinks the M15 is too small, and I want to minimize her unhappiness. Because I?m 72 and endurance is waning, the honey-do list is going to take a while, even with the ?new? M17 waiting for me. I will honor my pledge of ?list completion before launch? (or even before boat projects). Gonna be tough. ? Gary M-17 #637 New Braunfels, TX
On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> wrote: ?Gary, many of us engage in quid pro quo Honey Do List negotiations with Spouses in order to sail. We Sailors sympathize. Somehow they just don?t understand when we throw ourselves into voyage prep while seeming to lack energy to mow lawn. Take Heart! As they/ we get older they like having us out of their hair. Do bathe before you get back though. If you desire a romantic sailor- home- from - the -Sea- reunion. Regards, Ed M-15 Murre
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On Feb 4, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me. A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 7 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 21:27:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Stan Susman <stanpfa@pacbell.net> To: "montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: test Message-ID: <2066321808.1625897.1612474029761@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
ok
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Message: 8 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:45:50 -0600 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: test Message-ID: <CA+TbpAW=GDAav-T0F8QXZu9s7CzNXb15qQnQKgBHrH-AvXBSpQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
ok
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 3:27 PM Stan Susman <stanpfa@pacbell.net> wrote:
ok
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Message: 9 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 23:29:03 +0000 (UTC) From: <salglesser@aol.com> To: thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com, montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: test Message-ID: <203523296.1872141.1612481343434@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
?OK got it?In a message dated 2/4/2021 2:46:30 PM Mountain Standard Time, thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com writes:? ok
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 3:27 PM Stan Susman <stanpfa@pacbell.net> wrote:
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Message: 10 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 19:59:51 -0500 From: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com> To: Rusty Knorr <rustyinafrica@yahoo.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Posts!!! Message-ID: <B7A60122-3322-4E7E-9F36-DD40E5CF3CD9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Didn?t know I was on a site with rigid rules. Thought it was for enjoyment and hearing from others. Frankly as I followed the transport issues it reminded me of my Army days in meetings with colonels wanting to impress with their superior knowledge for a simple issue a private could resolve in 15 minutes.
I?m here for enjoyment of others and if I am to adhere to rigid rules that I gave have up long ago and now at 80 I may in the wrong place.
I?ve enjoyed it so far but when someone complains about someone not adhering to a rule as it was done disturbs me.
Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 4, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
?Sorry, but what does this have to do with transporting a Monty, or a rudder? Can we really not take the time to trim a post or start a new one? This makes it impossible to search info you need in archives, massively clogs up the daily digest with endless reply streams, is lazy and is super annoying. We literally need a monthly reminder to TRIM YOUR POSTS, START A NEW THREAD WITH A NEW SUBJECT.
This isn?t hard people.
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:23:54 -0600 From: <msogggf@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <601af84a.1c69fb81.7e3c9.4c8a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
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Message: 11 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 01:49:48 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Posts!!! Message-ID: <BYAPR14MB2520C0E2133FC280F9D8B403B7B29@BYAPR14MB2520.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
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Charlie. Hang around my friend. Every forum has a weenie or two. I?ll take you up on that Drink sometime sir. Thanks for sharing..? Bob Eeg. ??
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 4, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Charles Adams via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
?Didn?t know I was on a site with rigid rules. Thought it was for enjoyment and hearing from others. Frankly as I followed the transport issues it reminded me of my Army days in meetings with colonels wanting to impress with their superior knowledge for a simple issue a private could resolve in 15 minutes.
I?m here for enjoyment of others and if I am to adhere to rigid rules that I gave have up long ago and now at 80 I may in the wrong place.
I?ve enjoyed it so far but when someone complains about someone not adhering to a rule as it was done disturbs me.
Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 4, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: ?Sorry, but what does this have to do with transporting a Monty, or a rudder? Can we really not take the time to trim a post or start a new one? This makes it impossible to search info you need in archives, massively clogs up the daily digest with endless reply streams, is lazy and is super annoying. We literally need a monthly reminder to TRIM YOUR POSTS, START A NEW THREAD WITH A NEW SUBJECT.
This isn?t hard people.
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:23:54 -0600 From: <msogggf@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <601af84a.1c69fb81.7e3c9.4c8a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
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Message: 12 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 19:46:23 -0800 From: Paul Baker <avalonjazz@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Posts!!! Message-ID: <CAHcOfcJEDAi8v=j1OrD_k5WgWux1+znUA1k4XgQep8eqV7q0vQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Charlie, Please stick around. Try to ignore those certain people. They're everywhere.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 5:50 PM Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Charlie. Hang around my friend. Every forum has a weenie or two. I?ll take you up on that Drink sometime sir. Thanks for sharing..? Bob Eeg. ??
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 4, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Charles Adams via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: ?Didn?t know I was on a site with rigid rules. Thought it was for enjoyment and hearing from others. Frankly as I followed the transport issues it reminded me of my Army days in meetings with colonels wanting to impress with their superior knowledge for a simple issue a private could resolve in 15 minutes. I?m here for enjoyment of others and if I am to adhere to rigid rules that I gave have up long ago and now at 80 I may in the wrong place. I?ve enjoyed it so far but when someone complains about someone not adhering to a rule as it was done disturbs me. Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 4, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: ?Sorry, but what does this have to do with transporting a Monty, or a rudder? Can we really not take the time to trim a post or start a new one? This makes it impossible to search info you need in archives, massively clogs up the daily digest with endless reply streams, is lazy and is super annoying. We literally need a monthly reminder to TRIM YOUR POSTS, START A NEW THREAD WITH A NEW SUBJECT. This isn?t hard people.
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:23:54 -0600 From: <msogggf@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <601af84a.1c69fb81.7e3c9.4c8a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
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Message: 13 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 19:59:40 -0800 From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Posts!!! Message-ID: <1c9aa80a-3eec-b3ad-f6fb-54dcfbdfd02f@eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
It's a reasonable request, made perhaps somewhat harshly.
At the least, having an accurate subject helps everyone on the list know at a glance whether a post is of interest to them or not.
It's just a friendly helpful thing to do on a list.
Think of it like all the friendly helpful things we do as sailors for other sailors - grab a line, help tie up or cast off, snag that hat/pail/pfd/sponge that got dropped or blew overboard, give an assist on the ramp, getting on or off the trailer, etc. etc. and so on.
When we "reply" we can simply edit the "subject" field of the reply, if we are changing the subject. There's no need to make a brand new message.
cheers, John
On 2/4/21 7:46 PM, Paul Baker wrote: Charlie, Please stick around. Try to ignore those certain people. They're everywhere.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 5:50 PM Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Charlie. Hang around my friend. Every forum has a weenie or two. I?ll take you up on that Drink sometime sir. Thanks for sharing..? Bob Eeg. ??
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 4, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Charles Adams via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: ?Didn?t know I was on a site with rigid rules. Thought it was for enjoyment and hearing from others. Frankly as I followed the transport issues it reminded me of my Army days in meetings with colonels wanting to impress with their superior knowledge for a simple issue a private could resolve in 15 minutes. I?m here for enjoyment of others and if I am to adhere to rigid rules that I gave have up long ago and now at 80 I may in the wrong place. I?ve enjoyed it so far but when someone complains about someone not adhering to a rule as it was done disturbs me. Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 4, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: ?Sorry, but what does this have to do with transporting a Monty, or a rudder? Can we really not take the time to trim a post or start a new one? This makes it impossible to search info you need in archives, massively clogs up the daily digest with endless reply streams, is lazy and is super annoying. We literally need a monthly reminder to TRIM YOUR POSTS, START A NEW THREAD WITH A NEW SUBJECT. This isn?t hard people. > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:23:54 -0600 > From: <msogggf@gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft > rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. > Message-ID: <601af84a.1c69fb81.7e3c9.4c8a@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design
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Message: 14 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:57:44 -0500 From: brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 216, Issue 3 Message-ID: <CALpQOtBGUFoNEPwSMxOfLKMLsqiHccKVg-7Z=cUY2TpRkpYx7w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Charles, like you, am also a fly sailor. Used to bum around in a '61 Piper Colt. Now it's a Maule. Both good airplanes. Both plane and boat go from A to B on the lift-from-airflow-around-a-curved-surface principle, but am still amazed how one of them goes 120 mph, while the other is lucky to reach 5, and above that is just too fast, sort of like yellow or red lining the airspeed in the plane. Good luck with your future M17 adventures, and getting yourself another plane. - Brad
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:23:54 -0600 From: Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <601af84a.1c69fb81.7e3c9.4c8a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
Gary Froeschner gfroeschner@gmail.com
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 17:44:56 -0500 From: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <23711689-8DC4-4C2C-AF4D-D013A2506BE5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I also wonder about her as she is 13 years younger than me as I also wonder how I?ve made it to 80. It?s disheartening when I see people stopping to do things they enjoy because of age as I?ve seen posted here. I?m in the process of building my M-17 for single handing to include raising the mast myself on or off trailer. Installing an autopilot and think I will also do self tailing winches. Already have all lines running to cockpit. I enjoy doing things myself. Have a number of adventures planned with it. How planning to start sailing first of May on Lake Ontario.
Also stilling flying and looking for another plane. Two years ago on take off I lost a wheel on an old piper. One wheel landing didn?t work out so well and flipped it. If you know any pilots they will tell you any landing you walk away from is a good landing, I walked away.
Liked your post as you appear to be like people I?ve enjoyed all my life. Don?t be to serious and enjoy life while getting the most out of it.
Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote: ?I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions? Gary Froeschner gfroeschner@gmail.com
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Message: 3 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 00:26:58 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: < BYAPR14MB25202A0FC36E4E5F6D9F7DE8B7B39@BYAPR14MB2520.namprd14.prod.outlook.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Good story Charlie On the flipped Piper....did you have sudden stoppage on the Prop..? Glad you walked away. Bob Eeg
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Charles Adams via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: ?I also wonder about her as she is 13 years younger than me as I also wonder how I?ve made it to 80. It?s disheartening when I see people stopping to do things they enjoy because of age as I?ve seen posted here. I?m in the process of building my M-17 for single handing to include raising the mast myself on or off trailer. Installing an autopilot and think I will also do self tailing winches. Already have all lines running to cockpit. I enjoy doing things myself. Have a number of adventures planned with it. How planning to start sailing first of May on Lake Ontario. Also stilling flying and looking for another plane. Two years ago on take off I lost a wheel on an old piper. One wheel landing didn?t work out so well and flipped it. If you know any pilots they will tell you any landing you walk away from is a good landing, I walked away. Liked your post as you appear to be like people I?ve enjoyed all my life. Don?t be to serious and enjoy life while getting the most out of it. Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote:
?I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions? Gary Froeschner gfroeschner@gmail.com
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Message: 4 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 09:26:39 -0600 From: "Gary.perser" <gary.perser@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <0A5BC75F-C938-4EBE-BE91-1369F3FF9BA9@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
?I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 5 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 07:33:40 -0800 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CAGjBOA6Ebu7vA+SREvJ_e06u0w-SEHVL5iW045MfV4QnfQ7LnA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Welcome to the group Gary. Go sailing!!
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site!
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 7:28 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 6 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:18:51 -0600 From: Henry Rodriguez <heinzir@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CAMKG1hLAYJphzEr7nU9_OGJdUpDoG58EpbDEgD61EbvgB32Zpg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Welcome! The adventure begins!
Henry Monita M17 #310
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:28 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
-- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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Message: 7 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:33:25 +0000 From: Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CO1PR10MB477116BE55C4A6F4CF7541A7B2B39@CO1PR10MB4771.namprd10.prod.outlook.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Gary, many of us engage in quid pro quo Honey Do List negotiations with Spouses in order to sail. We Sailors sympathize. Somehow they just don?t understand when we throw ourselves into voyage prep while seeming to lack energy to mow lawn. Take Heart! As they/ we get older they like having us out of their hair. Do bathe before you get back though. If you desire a romantic sailor- home- from - the -Sea- reunion. Regards, Ed M-15 Murre
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 4, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me. A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 8 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:49:52 -0600 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <CA+TbpAWLaVpvCxi= q_MeOvseYt9c8c5rf8fvVkPhL0mRosXgDA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hey, Gary, enjoy "the ride" (repairs) as much as the destination (launch). You will get to know your craft very well by then. I sailed my first Monty 17 on Lake Travis back in the early 1980's. They are fine boats! Fair winds, Tom Buzzi
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:27 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 9 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:03:17 -0600 From: "Gary.perser" <gary.perser@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <C6B3671F-A43E-415B-BFA9-59D72C955BB9@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Edward, I am retired, so my dear loving and loved wife does like her peace and quiet with me out of ?our? house, but she is a worrier and wants to watch when I kill myself - so no single-handing; that?s why I bought an M17 rather than an M15. I love the M15 and like the M17. She thinks the M15 is too small, and I want to minimize her unhappiness. Because I?m 72 and endurance is waning, the honey-do list is going to take a while, even with the ?new? M17 waiting for me. I will honor my pledge of ?list completion before launch? (or even before boat projects). Gonna be tough. ? Gary M-17 #637 New Braunfels, TX
On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> wrote: ?Gary, many of us engage in quid pro quo Honey Do List negotiations with Spouses in order to sail. We Sailors sympathize. Somehow they just don?t understand when we throw ourselves into voyage prep while seeming to lack energy to mow lawn. Take Heart! As they/ we get older they like having us out of their hair. Do bathe before you get back though. If you desire a romantic sailor- home- from - the -Sea- reunion. Regards, Ed M-15 Murre
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 4, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me. A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 10 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:03:47 -0800 From: GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1@mac.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <ED8DECD1-2B0C-463D-9307-B0F1E17FA0D8@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Enjoy! She?s a good boat; I enjoyed 10 years of sailing her. She points well. The rope that lifts the center board might need replacing. Check with Bob Egg.
~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-)
On Feb 4, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote: ?Hey, Gary, enjoy "the ride" (repairs) as much as the destination (launch). You will get to know your craft very well by then. I sailed my first Monty 17 on Lake Travis back in the early 1980's. They are fine boats! Fair winds, Tom Buzzi
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:27 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 11 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:05:17 -0500 From: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <319D1467-168C-44B7-98E7-B4E029165EB0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Gary your mail of sailing on Lake Travis reminded me of when in the mid 70s I crewed on a friend?s J 24. I still remember it as beautiful lake. My friend?s dad had money so also sailed regattas out of Houston Yacht Club. Good memories.
Doing up grades on my M17 I bought last year for Lake Ontario. However have 2 ft of snow with zero temps so will be a couple months before I can work on it. It?s in a building but no heat.
Thanks for the memory
Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: ?I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me. A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 15 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 10:01:36 -0500 From: brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <CALpQOtDG6iUuKCmGKBRCzmZe7Bv3+4W5BqaZeT1j_OC-OmjDEg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Charles, like you, am also a fly sailor. Used to bum around in a '61 Piper Colt. Now it's a Maule. Both good airplanes. Both plane and boat go from A to B on the lift-from-airflow-around-a-curved-surface principle, but am still amazed how one of them goes 120 mph, while the other is lucky to reach 5, and above that is just too fast, sort of like yellow or red lining the airspeed in the plane. Good luck with your future M17 adventures, and getting yourself another plane. - Brad
On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 9:57 AM brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles, like you, am also a fly sailor. Used to bum around in a '61 Piper Colt. Now it's a Maule. Both good airplanes. Both plane and boat go from A to B on the lift-from-airflow-around-a-curved-surface principle, but am still amazed how one of them goes 120 mph, while the other is lucky to reach 5, and above that is just too fast, sort of like yellow or red lining the airspeed in the plane. Good luck with your future M17 adventures, and getting yourself another plane. - Brad
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1. Re: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. (Gary Froeschner) 2. Re: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. (Charles Adams) 3. Re: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. (Bob Eeg) 4. Hydeaway 2 (Gary.perser) 5. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Dave Scobie) 6. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Henry Rodriguez) 7. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Edward Epifani) 8. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Thomas Buzzi) 9. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Gary.perser) 10. Re: Hydeaway 2 (GARY M HYDE) 11. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Charles Adams)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:23:54 -0600 From: Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <601af84a.1c69fb81.7e3c9.4c8a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
Gary Froeschner gfroeschner@gmail.com
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 17:44:56 -0500 From: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <23711689-8DC4-4C2C-AF4D-D013A2506BE5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I also wonder about her as she is 13 years younger than me as I also wonder how I?ve made it to 80. It?s disheartening when I see people stopping to do things they enjoy because of age as I?ve seen posted here. I?m in the process of building my M-17 for single handing to include raising the mast myself on or off trailer. Installing an autopilot and think I will also do self tailing winches. Already have all lines running to cockpit. I enjoy doing things myself. Have a number of adventures planned with it. How planning to start sailing first of May on Lake Ontario.
Also stilling flying and looking for another plane. Two years ago on take off I lost a wheel on an old piper. One wheel landing didn?t work out so well and flipped it. If you know any pilots they will tell you any landing you walk away from is a good landing, I walked away.
Liked your post as you appear to be like people I?ve enjoyed all my life. Don?t be to serious and enjoy life while getting the most out of it.
Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote:
?I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions? Gary Froeschner gfroeschner@gmail.com
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Message: 3 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 00:26:58 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: < BYAPR14MB25202A0FC36E4E5F6D9F7DE8B7B39@BYAPR14MB2520.namprd14.prod.outlook.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Good story Charlie On the flipped Piper....did you have sudden stoppage on the Prop..? Glad you walked away. Bob Eeg
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On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Charles Adams via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: ?I also wonder about her as she is 13 years younger than me as I also wonder how I?ve made it to 80. It?s disheartening when I see people stopping to do things they enjoy because of age as I?ve seen posted here. I?m in the process of building my M-17 for single handing to include raising the mast myself on or off trailer. Installing an autopilot and think I will also do self tailing winches. Already have all lines running to cockpit. I enjoy doing things myself. Have a number of adventures planned with it. How planning to start sailing first of May on Lake Ontario. Also stilling flying and looking for another plane. Two years ago on take off I lost a wheel on an old piper. One wheel landing didn?t work out so well and flipped it. If you know any pilots they will tell you any landing you walk away from is a good landing, I walked away. Liked your post as you appear to be like people I?ve enjoyed all my life. Don?t be to serious and enjoy life while getting the most out of it. Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote:
?I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions? Gary Froeschner gfroeschner@gmail.com
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Message: 4 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 09:26:39 -0600 From: "Gary.perser" <gary.perser@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <0A5BC75F-C938-4EBE-BE91-1369F3FF9BA9@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
?I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 5 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 07:33:40 -0800 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CAGjBOA6Ebu7vA+SREvJ_e06u0w-SEHVL5iW045MfV4QnfQ7LnA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Welcome to the group Gary. Go sailing!!
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site!
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 7:28 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 6 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:18:51 -0600 From: Henry Rodriguez <heinzir@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CAMKG1hLAYJphzEr7nU9_OGJdUpDoG58EpbDEgD61EbvgB32Zpg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Welcome! The adventure begins!
Henry Monita M17 #310
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:28 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
-- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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Message: 7 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:33:25 +0000 From: Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CO1PR10MB477116BE55C4A6F4CF7541A7B2B39@CO1PR10MB4771.namprd10.prod.outlook.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Gary, many of us engage in quid pro quo Honey Do List negotiations with Spouses in order to sail. We Sailors sympathize. Somehow they just don?t understand when we throw ourselves into voyage prep while seeming to lack energy to mow lawn. Take Heart! As they/ we get older they like having us out of their hair. Do bathe before you get back though. If you desire a romantic sailor- home- from - the -Sea- reunion. Regards, Ed M-15 Murre
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 4, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me. A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 8 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:49:52 -0600 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <CA+TbpAWLaVpvCxi= q_MeOvseYt9c8c5rf8fvVkPhL0mRosXgDA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hey, Gary, enjoy "the ride" (repairs) as much as the destination (launch). You will get to know your craft very well by then. I sailed my first Monty 17 on Lake Travis back in the early 1980's. They are fine boats! Fair winds, Tom Buzzi
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:27 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 9 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:03:17 -0600 From: "Gary.perser" <gary.perser@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <C6B3671F-A43E-415B-BFA9-59D72C955BB9@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Edward, I am retired, so my dear loving and loved wife does like her peace and quiet with me out of ?our? house, but she is a worrier and wants to watch when I kill myself - so no single-handing; that?s why I bought an M17 rather than an M15. I love the M15 and like the M17. She thinks the M15 is too small, and I want to minimize her unhappiness. Because I?m 72 and endurance is waning, the honey-do list is going to take a while, even with the ?new? M17 waiting for me. I will honor my pledge of ?list completion before launch? (or even before boat projects). Gonna be tough. ? Gary M-17 #637 New Braunfels, TX
On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> wrote: ?Gary, many of us engage in quid pro quo Honey Do List negotiations with Spouses in order to sail. We Sailors sympathize. Somehow they just don?t understand when we throw ourselves into voyage prep while seeming to lack energy to mow lawn. Take Heart! As they/ we get older they like having us out of their hair. Do bathe before you get back though. If you desire a romantic sailor- home- from - the -Sea- reunion. Regards, Ed M-15 Murre
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On Feb 4, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me. A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 10 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:03:47 -0800 From: GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1@mac.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <ED8DECD1-2B0C-463D-9307-B0F1E17FA0D8@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Enjoy! She?s a good boat; I enjoyed 10 years of sailing her. She points well. The rope that lifts the center board might need replacing. Check with Bob Egg.
~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-)
On Feb 4, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote: ?Hey, Gary, enjoy "the ride" (repairs) as much as the destination (launch). You will get to know your craft very well by then. I sailed my first Monty 17 on Lake Travis back in the early 1980's. They are fine boats! Fair winds, Tom Buzzi
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:27 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 11 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:05:17 -0500 From: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <319D1467-168C-44B7-98E7-B4E029165EB0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Gary your mail of sailing on Lake Travis reminded me of when in the mid 70s I crewed on a friend?s J 24. I still remember it as beautiful lake. My friend?s dad had money so also sailed regattas out of Houston Yacht Club. Good memories.
Doing up grades on my M17 I bought last year for Lake Ontario. However have 2 ft of snow with zero temps so will be a couple months before I can work on it. It?s in a building but no heat.
Thanks for the memory
Charlie
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On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
?I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me. A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 16 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 12:11:37 -0500 From: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com> To: bkurlancheek@gmail.com, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <46905EC8-D6B4-4302-A3F2-77EC908B3E05@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I always wanted to own a Maule and went to the factory for a test flight. Flew it with Ray Maule and can say I never did a faster recovery in an accelerated stall than the Maule. Ray even completed me. I think it better than a Super Cub on landing. I didn?t buy because of insurance rates. On a new 180 it was $7000 annually no matter the model.
There is an older one that just came to our grass strip.
Charlie
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On Feb 5, 2021, at 10:02 AM, brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
?Charles, like you, am also a fly sailor. Used to bum around in a '61 Piper Colt. Now it's a Maule. Both good airplanes. Both plane and boat go from A to B on the lift-from-airflow-around-a-curved-surface principle, but am still amazed how one of them goes 120 mph, while the other is lucky to reach 5, and above that is just too fast, sort of like yellow or red lining the airspeed in the plane. Good luck with your future M17 adventures, and getting yourself another plane. - Brad
On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 9:57 AM brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles, like you, am also a fly sailor. Used to bum around in a '61 Piper Colt. Now it's a Maule. Both good airplanes. Both plane and boat go from A to B on the lift-from-airflow-around-a-curved-surface principle, but am still amazed how one of them goes 120 mph, while the other is lucky to reach 5, and above that is just too fast, sort of like yellow or red lining the airspeed in the plane. Good luck with your future M17 adventures, and getting yourself another plane. - Brad
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1. Re: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. (Gary Froeschner) 2. Re: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. (Charles Adams) 3. Re: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. (Bob Eeg) 4. Hydeaway 2 (Gary.perser) 5. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Dave Scobie) 6. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Henry Rodriguez) 7. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Edward Epifani) 8. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Thomas Buzzi) 9. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Gary.perser) 10. Re: Hydeaway 2 (GARY M HYDE) 11. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Charles Adams)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:23:54 -0600 From: Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <601af84a.1c69fb81.7e3c9.4c8a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
Gary Froeschner gfroeschner@gmail.com
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 17:44:56 -0500 From: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <23711689-8DC4-4C2C-AF4D-D013A2506BE5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I also wonder about her as she is 13 years younger than me as I also wonder how I?ve made it to 80. It?s disheartening when I see people stopping to do things they enjoy because of age as I?ve seen posted here. I?m in the process of building my M-17 for single handing to include raising the mast myself on or off trailer. Installing an autopilot and think I will also do self tailing winches. Already have all lines running to cockpit. I enjoy doing things myself. Have a number of adventures planned with it. How planning to start sailing first of May on Lake Ontario.
Also stilling flying and looking for another plane. Two years ago on take off I lost a wheel on an old piper. One wheel landing didn?t work out so well and flipped it. If you know any pilots they will tell you any landing you walk away from is a good landing, I walked away.
Liked your post as you appear to be like people I?ve enjoyed all my life. Don?t be to serious and enjoy life while getting the most out of it.
Charlie
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On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote:
?I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions? Gary Froeschner gfroeschner@gmail.com
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Message: 3 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 00:26:58 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: < BYAPR14MB25202A0FC36E4E5F6D9F7DE8B7B39@BYAPR14MB2520.namprd14.prod.outlook.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Good story Charlie On the flipped Piper....did you have sudden stoppage on the Prop..? Glad you walked away. Bob Eeg
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On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Charles Adams via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: ?I also wonder about her as she is 13 years younger than me as I also wonder how I?ve made it to 80. It?s disheartening when I see people stopping to do things they enjoy because of age as I?ve seen posted here. I?m in the process of building my M-17 for single handing to include raising the mast myself on or off trailer. Installing an autopilot and think I will also do self tailing winches. Already have all lines running to cockpit. I enjoy doing things myself. Have a number of adventures planned with it. How planning to start sailing first of May on Lake Ontario. Also stilling flying and looking for another plane. Two years ago on take off I lost a wheel on an old piper. One wheel landing didn?t work out so well and flipped it. If you know any pilots they will tell you any landing you walk away from is a good landing, I walked away. Liked your post as you appear to be like people I?ve enjoyed all my life. Don?t be to serious and enjoy life while getting the most out of it. Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote: > > ?I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions? > Gary Froeschner > gfroeschner@gmail.com >
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Message: 4 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 09:26:39 -0600 From: "Gary.perser" <gary.perser@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <0A5BC75F-C938-4EBE-BE91-1369F3FF9BA9@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
?I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 5 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 07:33:40 -0800 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CAGjBOA6Ebu7vA+SREvJ_e06u0w-SEHVL5iW045MfV4QnfQ7LnA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Welcome to the group Gary. Go sailing!!
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On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 7:28 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 6 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:18:51 -0600 From: Henry Rodriguez <heinzir@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CAMKG1hLAYJphzEr7nU9_OGJdUpDoG58EpbDEgD61EbvgB32Zpg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Welcome! The adventure begins!
Henry Monita M17 #310
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:28 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 7 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:33:25 +0000 From: Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CO1PR10MB477116BE55C4A6F4CF7541A7B2B39@CO1PR10MB4771.namprd10.prod.outlook.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Gary, many of us engage in quid pro quo Honey Do List negotiations with Spouses in order to sail. We Sailors sympathize. Somehow they just don?t understand when we throw ourselves into voyage prep while seeming to lack energy to mow lawn. Take Heart! As they/ we get older they like having us out of their hair. Do bathe before you get back though. If you desire a romantic sailor- home- from - the -Sea- reunion. Regards, Ed M-15 Murre
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On Feb 4, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me. A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 8 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:49:52 -0600 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <CA+TbpAWLaVpvCxi= q_MeOvseYt9c8c5rf8fvVkPhL0mRosXgDA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hey, Gary, enjoy "the ride" (repairs) as much as the destination (launch). You will get to know your craft very well by then. I sailed my first Monty 17 on Lake Travis back in the early 1980's. They are fine boats! Fair winds, Tom Buzzi
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:27 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 9 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:03:17 -0600 From: "Gary.perser" <gary.perser@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <C6B3671F-A43E-415B-BFA9-59D72C955BB9@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Edward, I am retired, so my dear loving and loved wife does like her peace and quiet with me out of ?our? house, but she is a worrier and wants to watch when I kill myself - so no single-handing; that?s why I bought an M17 rather than an M15. I love the M15 and like the M17. She thinks the M15 is too small, and I want to minimize her unhappiness. Because I?m 72 and endurance is waning, the honey-do list is going to take a while, even with the ?new? M17 waiting for me. I will honor my pledge of ?list completion before launch? (or even before boat projects). Gonna be tough. ? Gary M-17 #637 New Braunfels, TX
On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> wrote: ?Gary, many of us engage in quid pro quo Honey Do List negotiations with Spouses in order to sail. We Sailors sympathize. Somehow they just don?t understand when we throw ourselves into voyage prep while seeming to lack energy to mow lawn. Take Heart! As they/ we get older they like having us out of their hair. Do bathe before you get back though. If you desire a romantic sailor- home- from - the -Sea- reunion. Regards, Ed M-15 Murre
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 4, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: > > I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me. > A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 10 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:03:47 -0800 From: GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1@mac.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <ED8DECD1-2B0C-463D-9307-B0F1E17FA0D8@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Enjoy! She?s a good boat; I enjoyed 10 years of sailing her. She points well. The rope that lifts the center board might need replacing. Check with Bob Egg.
~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-)
On Feb 4, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote: ?Hey, Gary, enjoy "the ride" (repairs) as much as the destination (launch). You will get to know your craft very well by then. I sailed my first Monty 17 on Lake Travis back in the early 1980's. They are fine boats! Fair winds, Tom Buzzi
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:27 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote: > I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently > working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake > and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail > there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing > sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to > participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken > Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me. > > A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to > complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for > sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance. >
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Message: 11 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:05:17 -0500 From: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <319D1467-168C-44B7-98E7-B4E029165EB0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Gary your mail of sailing on Lake Travis reminded me of when in the mid 70s I crewed on a friend?s J 24. I still remember it as beautiful lake. My friend?s dad had money so also sailed regattas out of Houston Yacht Club. Good memories.
Doing up grades on my M17 I bought last year for Lake Ontario. However have 2 ft of snow with zero temps so will be a couple months before I can work on it. It?s in a building but no heat.
Thanks for the memory
Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
?I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me. A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 17 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:24:08 -0800 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Airplanes Message-ID: <CAGjBOA6Gq00ufZXJxbyKVQEt+68fYhX12dDaW8FeyxsoYSUg3w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I will say - sailing is cheaper than planes. These days it is $200 to get the $100 hamburger. (ha ha)
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On Fri, Feb 5, 2021, 9:12 AM Charles Adams via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I always wanted to own a Maule and went to the factory for a test flight. Flew it with Ray Maule and can say I never did a faster recovery in an accelerated stall than the Maule. Ray even completed me. I think it better than a Super Cub on landing. I didn?t buy because of insurance rates. On a new 180 it was $7000 annually no matter the model.
There is an older one that just came to our grass strip.
Charlie
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On Feb 5, 2021, at 10:02 AM, brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote: ?Charles, like you, am also a fly sailor. Used to bum around in a '61 Piper Colt. Now it's a Maule. Both good airplanes. Both plane and boat go from A to B on the lift-from-airflow-around-a-curved-surface principle, but am still amazed how one of them goes 120 mph, while the other is lucky to reach 5, and above that is just too fast, sort of like yellow or red lining the airspeed in the plane. Good luck with your future M17 adventures, and getting yourself another plane. - Brad
On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 9:57 AM brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com wrote:
Charles, like you, am also a fly sailor. Used to bum around in a '61 Piper Colt. Now it's a Maule. Both good airplanes. Both plane and boat go from A to B on the lift-from-airflow-around-a-curved-surface principle, but am still amazed how one of them goes 120 mph, while the other is lucky to reach 5, and above that is just too fast, sort of like yellow or red lining the airspeed in the plane. Good luck with your future M17 adventures, and getting yourself another plane. - Brad
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Rusty, the M-gang are a bunch of kindred spirits, and we go back many years of being together. We're all old friends, and I claim the top spot based on seniority, since I just hit 100, on the 19th of December - high and dry with no M-15 to sail any more. We've had different sailing experiences; M-boat modification know-how; "things" you need on board to make sailing easier or more comfortable; what works, and what doesn't. We've even had short digressions into Lucas electrical - the Prince of Darkness - British car equipment when someone mentioned that he had had an MG. Too much diversion is gently frowned upon, but I think we've all been guilt of doing this on occasion. Ciao, Connie