Joe, There is a company called Duckworks boat builders supply that caters to small boats. You may have been thinking of them. It is not a specific line of products but they carry smaller sizes for a reasonable price. http://www.duckworksbbs.com/ Thanks Doug Kelch M15 G1 "Seas the Day" --- On Tue, 2/3/09, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote: From: Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Cleats To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 10:42 PM Not too long ago someone had a post recommending a brand of very small rope cleats to use for such things as out hauls, vangs etc. Does this ring a bell? It was from a company that caters to small boats. I thought I had squirreled this away but I can't find it. Thanks, Joe _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!