David - I'm John, here in San Antonio, and a previous M-15 owner during the 75 era. Is there an M-17 group around here in SA? I am in the market for a 17 and would like to find some locals who would like to chat. - John In a message dated 9/28/2008 8:15:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, cherish@FBCUC.ORG writes: Hey Randy, I'm a San Antonio M-15 owner. Maybe we will cross paths. Where do you sail? David Haven M-15 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mark Escovedo Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:26 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 67, Issue 31 Welcome to the list Randy :) ----- Original Message ---- From: Randy Watkins <jazzmanrandy@hotmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 3:28:00 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 67, Issue 31 Hello, Randy Watkins here, "new" old Mboat sailor. My recent, current boat is a M15, "Becca Anne", based in central Texas. My past M15 was #194, "Crystal Sea". Looking forward to sailing with you all in the future. RW Bryan, Tx
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1. Re: Arizona's season is finally starting!!! (Joe Moore) 2. please delete from mailing list (john hill) 3. Singing Rudder (James Poulakis) 4. Re: Singing Rudder (Gordon Gilbert) 5. Re: Singing Rudder (Chad Parrish) 6. Re: Singing Rudder (Gordon Gilbert) 7. 4 day cruise in Oct - Chesapeake Bay (Doug Kelch)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:47:24 -0500 From: Joe Moore <joemoore@josephmoore.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Arizona's season is finally starting!!! To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <48DCF5FC.2070700@josephmoore.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Several years ago, I did a day sail on a schooner that looked a lot like that in Newport Harbor.
joe
Gary M Hyde wrote:
Jim: That picture is the Beal we sailed on! Gary
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On Sep 25, 2008, at 11:02 PM, James Poulakis <picfo@comcast.net> wrote:
Gary, Schooners make my heart pound. Here's a shot of the old girl I found on the web:
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2750412290101531369bmTQxS
Here's a $2,950 oil painting of her by Ronald Parry (you gotta scroll down a bit):
http://www.parrygallery.com/Marine/index.htm
Jim Poulakis M17 "Spirit"
On Sep 25, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Gary M Hyde wrote:
Sean: U just launched your boat, I just hauled mine out. So it goes. Just finished a great Elderhostel on a 1911 built, 84' schooner Sylvina W. Beal. We sailed (or motored) 3 days in a row out of Eastport, Maine. Gary.
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On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Nebwest2@aol.com wrote:
As of October 1 we'll be putting Dauntless in her winter slip here in Lake Havasu. We've had a great summer of sailing with over on the CA coast, but that's only a couple days each month for us. Now we can finally make sailing an almost daily affair. Last year we had quite a few folks come join us for some Winter sailing in Feb when they really needed a fix. I hope that I'll be able to entice some of you guys to come again this year. San Diego guys are you reading this??!!
I'll post more on the dates if the event as we get closer and it's not restricted to only Montys. Last year we had around 20 boats and crews participate, almost all from out of town. Here's
a link to a photo-journal of the event. Check it out and think about coming over and dong some winter sailing in the dessert this year! We had a great time. Hope to see you here. More to come....
_http://havasumontgomerys.piczo.com/?g=35678009&cr=1_ (http://havasumontgomerys.piczo.com/?g=35678009&cr=1)
Sean M23 "Dauntless" _www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com_ (http:// www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com )
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Message: 3 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:20:00 -0700 From: James Poulakis <picfo@comcast.net> Subject: M_Boats: Singing Rudder To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <2A485B3C-EF5A-4708-8AFE-25886B9D3838@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Sailing even with a moderate breeze makes Spirit's rudder hum loud enough to drown out the Pillar Point fog horn. The rudder is new and doesn't seem to be warped. Is there a trick to stop this or is it just a Monty thing?
Jim Poulakis "Spirit" (M17)
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Message: 4 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:12:47 -0500 From: Gordon Gilbert <gordon@financialwriting.net> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Singing Rudder To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <A96AFE14-40A9-46A6-BD4C-2EB0BEF6E13C@financialwriting.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Hi, Jim: I just experienced a similar thing on a sail yesterday. In my case (I'm not sure if your setup is the same as my 1983 model), the steel rod that the rudder hinges on had ridden up when I raised the rudder previously. Then when I lowered it, the rod did not go down completely
with the rudder, leaving the rod short and out of the lowest gudgeon (right word?). This has happened before, and when I pushed down the rod completely (so the cotter ring can't go any lower) the humming went away. I determined yesterday that I just need to ensure that the rod goes all the way down with the rudder every time I lower it for a sail.
Have a great weekend!
Gordon M-17 "Sapphire" Milwaukee
On Sep 27, 2008, at 2:20 AM, James Poulakis wrote:
Sailing even with a moderate breeze makes Spirit's rudder hum loud enough to drown out the Pillar Point fog horn. The rudder is new and doesn't seem to be warped. Is there a trick to stop this or is it just a Monty thing?
Jim Poulakis "Spirit" (M17)
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Message: 5 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:31:35 -0500 From: Chad Parrish <cparrish@fafnirnet.net> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Singing Rudder To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <46D85DC5-385F-4C60-B71C-6F02CD7F678D@fafnirnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
The rod on my boat has been machined a bit smaller near the bottom so a portion of the rod extends beyond the lower gudgeon, there is a hole through the rod that a snap ring or pin can be inserted to prevent the rod from going up when you raise the rudder. I can snap a
picture of this if the description is unclear, just let me know.
--Chad
On Sep 27, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Gordon Gilbert wrote:
Hi, Jim: I just experienced a similar thing on a sail yesterday. In my case (I'm not sure if your setup is the same as my 1983 model), the steel
rod that the rudder hinges on had ridden up when I raised the rudder
previously. Then when I lowered it, the rod did not go down completely with the rudder, leaving the rod short and out of the lowest gudgeon (right word?). This has happened before, and when I pushed down the rod completely (so the cotter ring can't go any lower) the humming went away. I determined yesterday that I just need to ensure that the rod goes all the way down with the rudder every time I lower it for a sail.
Have a great weekend!
Gordon M-17 "Sapphire" Milwaukee
On Sep 27, 2008, at 2:20 AM, James Poulakis wrote:
Sailing even with a moderate breeze makes Spirit's rudder hum loud enough to drown out the Pillar Point fog horn. The rudder is new and doesn't seem to be warped. Is there a trick to stop this or is
it just a Monty thing?
Jim Poulakis "Spirit" (M17)
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Message: 6 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:49:32 -0500 From: Gordon Gilbert <gordon@financialwriting.net> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Singing Rudder To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <A68D9F47-F0BF-4F85-8DF2-CA5E773B07F2@financialwriting.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Another cotter ring at the lower end of the rod would work for me, I think. Thanks!
Gordon On Sep 27, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Chad Parrish wrote:
The rod on my boat has been machined a bit smaller near the bottom so a portion of the rod extends beyond the lower gudgeon, there is a hole through the rod that a snap ring or pin can be inserted to prevent the rod from going up when you raise the rudder. I can snap
a picture of this if the description is unclear, just let me know.
--Chad
On Sep 27, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Gordon Gilbert wrote:
Hi, Jim: I just experienced a similar thing on a sail yesterday. In my case (I'm not sure if your setup is the same as my 1983 model), the steel rod that the rudder hinges on had ridden up when I raised the
rudder previously. Then when I lowered it, the rod did not go down completely with the rudder, leaving the rod short and out of the lowest gudgeon (right word?). This has happened before, and when I pushed down the rod completely (so the cotter ring can't go any lower) the humming went away. I determined yesterday that I just need to ensure that the rod goes all the way down with the rudder every time I lower it for a sail.
Have a great weekend!
Gordon M-17 "Sapphire" Milwaukee
On Sep 27, 2008, at 2:20 AM, James Poulakis wrote:
Sailing even with a moderate breeze makes Spirit's rudder hum loud
enough to drown out the Pillar Point fog horn. The rudder is new and doesn't seem to be warped. Is there a trick to stop this or is it just a Monty thing?
Jim Poulakis "Spirit" (M17)
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Message: 7 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:07:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> Subject: M_Boats: 4 day cruise in Oct - Chesapeake Bay To: Montgomery <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <798916.49238.qm@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
It looks like we have 4 or 5 boats for a 4 day cruise on the lower part of the Chesapeake Bay Oct. 10 - 13th.? If anyone would like to join up, drop me a note off list.
We had 3 boats on a superb Cruise on the Eastern Bay of the Chesapeake while the Apostle island cruise was going on. Friday and Saturday were partly cloudy with 15 - 20 kt winds and nice cool 70 deg temps.? Absolutely delightful days to play in the bigger waves and wind in an M15.
Thanks
Doug Kelch M15 "Seas the Day" doug_kelch@yahoo.com
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