The disc surge brakes have a solenoid valve that is actuated by your tow vehicle backup light circuit that by-passes the brake pressure when you back up. Disc brakes work the same in reverse as forward (drum brakes do not), so that circuit is necessary; either that or you disconnect the brake line to back up. --Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On May 21, 2010, at 2:20 PM, jslubliner@aol.com wrote:
I used to have to put a "U"-shaped plate on the trailer tongue to cut of the "surger" when coming down long hills with my heavier 26' boat. I should expect the main problem with the 17 would be backing up a hill into a garage, etc.
John in Tucson former Coyote-owner
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Carter <carterconsultants@comcast.net> To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 10:12 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tow vehicle
Gary, Your response re surge brakes has prompted me to ask a question: when escending a hill do you experience some braking action from your trailer heels even though you may not wish to activate your tow vehicle brakes? I ould think the pressure from the weight of the boat/trailer pushing forward ight tend to activate the surge braking system. Perhaps the weight of your 7 and trailer is not sufficient to cause this to happen, but I would ppreciate hearing of your experience. Mike -----Original Message----- rom: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Gary M yde ent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:39 AM o: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ubject: Re: M_Boats: Tow vehicle John: he surge disk brakes on my M17 trailer make a BIG difference in stopping ower. I tow with a turbo-charged Subaru Forester with no problem. --Gary Hyde 005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2'
On May 19, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Saltm17@aol.com wrote:
Just got back from a month in Hawaii and waded through the 300+ messagesin y inbox! It's been some time sincethe talk on towing vehicles but here is y take on the subject.
When I bought Miss T in 1985 I towed her with a 1976 ToyotaSR5 pickup. hat truck did an amazingjob, easily pulling Miss T across Montana,but I was orried about how well it could stop that rig in a panic situation. uckily I never had the chance to find out,but the concern lead me to ask erry Montgomery what he recommended. At that time Jerry was delivering his ewboats across the country and was using a Ford F150 with the 300 cubic nch,in-line six cylinder engine. I found aused one in 1986 and have riving it ever since. Old Blue is a gas guzzler to be sure but it pulledme nd Miss T for over 60,000 miles all across the country including a ewcrossings of the western mountains.
I have had two panic stops with Old Blue both due to someonecutting in ront of me and then having to stand on the brakes. Both times I was able o stop in time but theincidents left me debating adding surge brakes to the railer. That little extra braking power would havehelped. As of now I aven't added thembut the mental debate continues.
However Old Blue has also had three rebuilt engines put inher, the last ne a year ago. Now I'mconcerned that if we get above 60 mph I'll be rrested for littering; it's timefor a change.
I'm looking at three trucks: Ford F150, Toyota Tundra, Dodge Ram. The irst two have a high rating in Consumerreports based upon fewer repairs eeded compared to other trucks, The Dodge Ram is included because it is lsoConsumer Report recommended for it's pulling ratings. Which one I get illdepend which has the best deal but I have one requirement: irConditioning!. I bought Old Blue in Montana and didn't thinkI would mind ot having AC since I had no plans to leave that state. Fuzzy Thinking! ost times keeping the window open is cooling enough but when I was railering MissT from San CarlosMexico to Tucson, the temperature was 113, nd while Ihad to keep the window open a bit, a 113 degree blast of 50 mph ind was like ablast furnace. When I got to TucsonI was more like an over ooked linguini than a human. I sat on the AC in the motel room for uitesome time until I finally started to cool down.
One other observation, this time about rebuilt motors. After a total of 05,000 miles over all and 3rebuilt engines I've come to the conclusion that he company thinking behindthem is that whoever put a rebuilt engine in a ehicle will soon sell it. sothere isn't any great need to put a lot of time nto building a longlasting engine. They did give me 5 years and 70,000 iles onthe rebuilt engine and made good on the warranty when the engine(s) ied, buttwo engines later - and still within that warranty, I put in my ast rebuiltengine.
John Edwards Miss T M17 372
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