Another two cents worth from the Ozarks: Mark's post on 1 December gave directions to the West Marine, and it does look good, but I much prefer my "Crazy Creek Original Chair" found at www.crazycreek.com/ interior.cfm?page=detail&item=1 I bought one many years ago for canoe camping, my back couldn't take sitting around the campfire at night without support. At five bucks cheaper, I feel it is not only a better buy, but much better construction. Check the specs on both. I use mine in the cockpit for sailing, and in the cabin for reading before nodding off at night when anchored out. Do it now! You can't do it any younger… .--.-. | ( ( )__ \ _ / (_, \ ) ,_) | -== (_) ==- -'--`--' /|\ / \ / | \ | ^^ / | \ / | \ ^^ /361| \ / | \ / | \ ^^ / | \ ___/____| \ ______|_ \ ___ _______/ ==== \___\___/ | “MONTGOMERY 15” / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~^~~^=~^~~-=~^~^~=~^~=~~^~= ~^~=~~^=~^~~^~^=~^~-~^~~^~= ^~=~^~=~~^~~=~~=~^~=~~^~~^~^^ John Butler - First M15 was #264