rob: if the boat has no lapstrake it is not a montgomery 15. visit my boat's web site for pictures and my discussion of the M15s sailing character - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred i have seen a fair number boats incorrectly called montgomerys. if memory serves there was a Vivacity listed as a M21 on the MSOG 'for sail' site for a bit last year. i've even seen potter 15's listed as M15s on cragslist. i've even had folks come up to me when i'm out and say, "is that a potter?" after i hand them a towel after 'spitting in their general direction' i kindly explain the difference between potters and Mboats ;-) when i purchased SCRED i emailed jerry about the hull number (SCRED's is a bit odd, and she shares #288 w/another boat). jerry stated he has never heard of 'knock off' Mboats. dave scobie M15 #288 - SCRED visit Scred's www-site: www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred rob cram <rcram2002@yahoo.com> wrote: Greetings: I currently live in Sacramento, CA. I own and sail (or at least try to) a C-15. It is a fun boat, but the wife hates the tippy feel to the boat, and am having problems finding crew at times. Saw a Montgomery 15 parked by the lake, and since been doing research. Have heard a lot of good things about the boat. I did find one for sale, but it is listed as a Montgomery 15 Guppy. Looking at the pictures, it appears to have a smooth hull, not a lapstrake hull. It is definetly not a Guppy 13, and looks to have a retractable keel. My main question is, could this be a true Montgomery 15 or is could it be something else? The owner does not know much about it. Any advice is sincerely appreciated. Thanks- Rob