Thanks for the input George. What brand of trailer do you have? I am surprised that would happen with a 15, much lighter than the weight of a 17. Mary is planning to take the boat back to the yard and have it hauled and will do what you said, fill with water and see where the leaks are. Jim On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 1:14 PM George Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com> wrote:
Regardless of what one sees, the only way to really find the leak is to haul the boat. Then remove everything from the boat and flood the inside of the boat through all the lockers.
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2X in 7 years due to loading of the boat on trailer bunks improperly causing cracks in the hull over winter storage. You would think that one time would have been enough to learn the lesson. Sadely for some of us repetition is necessary. 🤐
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"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 2:01 PM Jim Ellsworth <jellsworth603@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok I have a bit more accurate description from Mary. It is not under the v-berth. "One crack is about an inch aft of the v-berth in the middle of the salon and right in the middle of a little round quarter size smooth depression in the sole. Another crack is just forward of where the tube for the control line enters the floor. Third crack is on the starboard side of the hull about three strakes up from the bilge. First crack around 1" long, second around 2" long and third around 4" long." She will get some pictures tomorrow which I will share. Thanks, Jim
On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 11:49 AM Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Wow. Did they drop the boat on concrete..? Have her take some photos close and far. Bob
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On Apr 1, 2022, at 11:19 AM, Jim Ellsworth <jellsworth603@gmail.com> wrote:
Mary did go down to the boat this morning and did find water weeping in where there is a small crack around where the bulkhead for the v berth is located. From her description I can't really see in my mind where it is, but she is going to see if she can get some pictures tomorrow (she had some business today and will check back up this afternoon). Thanks for your input Mark and Bob. Jim
On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 11:03 AM Bob Eeg < montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Mark. Salt water tells me that “perhaps” water is coming up the fiberglass tube we install for the pendant. Hopefully they didn’t drop the hull when they had the boat on the hoist… (It happens) cracking, flexing to open up something. The new owner could pull the boat to the trailer and fill the bilge with water and see where it drips overnight. Bob
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On Apr 1, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Mark Dvorscak <mdvorscak56@gmail.com> wrote:
Jim, On my M17 (which was a much older model) it was the cockpit drain tubes which had corroded to the point of leaking and allowing mystery water to appear in the bilge. Those 1.5" diameter tubes were glassed in below the waterline and the cockpit drain hoses connected to the metal ends of the tubes where they projected beyond the end of the glass. It took me a while to find where the water in my bilge was coming from but I finally slithered under the cockpit and inspected the drains with the boat in the water. I don't know if your boat was constructed the same way, but I would definitely check if there was any possibility that those drains could be compromised. Mark Dvorscak M23 M15 M10 & former M17 #400 Grace
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022, 09:29 Jim Ellsworth <jellsworth603@gmail.com
wrote:
> > Verified it is salt water. Mary inspected the hull pretty closely so likely > coming into the keel somewhere. She is going to get some good light down > there, empty the bilge then see if she can see where the water is entering. > If unable to locate then she will pull the boat out of the water at the > yard fill the bilge and see if there is water coming out of the keek > somewhere. I will keep the group posted when we find the answers. > Jim > >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 9:24 AM AT&T Account <stanpfa@pacbell.net
wrote:
>> >> how much water? Did it rain? does it have cockpit drain valves? open/ >> closed? what ever it is, it's likely minor,Stan >> On Friday, April 1, 2022, 07:52:59 AM PDT, Jim Ellsworth < >> jellsworth603@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I sold my M-17 a while ago and the new owner had a barrier coat and > bottom >> paint applied including removing the centerboard and replacing. The boat >> was launched and taken to her slip. She noticed water in the bilge pumped >> it out but it filled up the next day and she pumped it again. She can't >> find the source so I am reaching out here to see if anyone has > experienced >> this. The boat is a Bob boat built in 2000. She got underneath the > cockpit >> and can not find any water leaking inside the hull and draining into the >> bilge. One possibility was the tube the centerboard line goes through but >> She does not think that is the issue either. I owned the boat since 2008 >> and has been on the hard for about 6 years. During my ownership I have > not >> experienced this and she has never been beached, knocked anything on the >> bottom etc. so this is quite surprising. Any help or ideas would be >> appreciated. >> Jim Ellsworth >> Scamp #282 >> Crawford Melonseed #550 >> Prior Owner M-17 #603 >> >> >