On 11/18/2015 1:38 PM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: All right Thomas, Now that you are talking about a dinghy to row / sail and tow behind your M-17, allow me to introduce you to the Bolger Rubens NYMPH. I built the NYMPH as a dinghy for our original trailerable sailboat a Bolger MICRO (15' cat yawl). We had gone to Maine and wanted to explore the area, but found that dock space was only available for lobster boats to deliver lobsters and to pick up fresh bait for their traps. Moorings were to be had, but we didn't have a dinghy. No dinghy - moorings were worthless. So the following winter I built the Bolger NYMPH; an easy build job that rowed very well and towed very well behind the MICRO and later the M-15. The NYMPH is a bit tender when you initially get on board, but after sitting down, was a joy to row for hours.... Because of the initial tenderness, Bolger cut it down the middle and added a foot of width to the boat, making it fatter. Hence the Rubens NYMPH. I had a well equipped shop so building the NYMPH was easy. It's a stitch & glue construction. The rowing thwart runs longitudinally, so it is easy to move forward or backward depending on the load being carried; 2nd person, or three cases of beer, and groceries. Both have a leeboard for sailing; so adding a rudder / leeboard / and mast and you're good to go. Lots of enjoyment for a small price. Length of the NYMPH is 7'-9" and it was easily car-toppable and rode on our roof rack. Go to Google to see pictures and drawings of both NYMPH boats and the Shellback dinghy. The Shellback is also an excellent rowing machine and a good sailboat, but is longer and heavier than the NYMPH. I found and rebuilt an aluminum TRAILEX trailer for the Shellback and towed it behind my VW-GOLF. You could put it in the back of your pickup, but it is a lot heavier and more boat than is the NYMPH, but is also an excellent dinghy. Decisions, ....decisions. Connie
Connie, Son of a gun, I am still suffering the effects of "creeping waterline disease". I thought when I downsized from a 36 footer to a 17 foot Montgomery I was cured of that. Now I have started looking at a rowing/sailing dinghy (7'10" or so) as a tender for my Monty 17 so I can actually set foot on some of the shores around here instead of just sailing closely by them. The idea was a two sheet plywood hull which would tow reasonably well behind the Montgomery, and would also be able to fit in the back of my pickup for early morning sojourns in some of the quiet coves around here, now I am up to a 12 to 14 foot which will still slide into my pickup and weigh less than 130 pounds so my back will not yell at me, though now it will overhang about six feet and need a flag. What is next? A boat that will fit on a small trailer??? Whoever said sailing was a game of compromises sure hit the nail on the head. Beautiful day here. Temp in the low 70's, bright sun and about 7 knots of breeze. Another good sailing day courtesy of the Southeast "trades" off the Gulf and over the Texas coast. Watch out for the el nino this year. Tom
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/17/2015 10:37 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
Hi Thomas,
I had a Shellback sailing / rowing dinghy that was a great little boat. Easy to row (with Shaw & Tenny spoon blade 7'-6" oars), and a good sailer too.
Plans or Building kits are available from WOODEN BOAT magazine.
Connie
Hi Connie, Sorry to hear that about the Northeast. When I left there back in 1974 things were still subdued along most waterfronts. I guess the end will come when they turn the Charles W. Morgan into a casino. I have my Monty 17 and I have to keep reminding myself that it is NOT my last boat, a 36' S2. Everything I put in my 17' effects the balance. Haven't "downsized" my thinking yet. Love those small boats for use on "thin" water. Am getting a hankering to try my hand at constructing a totally wooden boat like a Zephyr or some such. Row and sail only. Nice thoughts to ponder on a cold winter's evening. Tom
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/17/2015 8:58 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Too many obnoxious powerboat drivers with no "couth" is what finally made us quit sailing the coastal waters of New England.
At Block Island New Harbor the Tuna Tower boys would crank up their 50000 watt loudspeakers and deluge the anchorage with their so called music. There was no peace and quiet to be had there any more.
The Marina's launch service now ran till 1AM, and the launch drivers going full speed through the anchorage almost rolled you out of your berths. Their passengers were hardly quiet and considerate of those that may want to sleep.....
That's when I said "enough" sold our big boat and went trailerable.
Now I could again find what I had enjoyed most while sailing; and if powered louts invaded my territory I could put the M-15 back on the trailer and go elsewhere.
I also found that if the water was thin; preferably also full of boulders; and without a gas station in sight; it was all ours to enjoy.
Cheers,
Connie
I would like to see that on a lot more lakes, anything besides sail, oars,
sweeps or electric motors on the smaller lakes. Smaller being less than a couple square miles.
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:12 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
I didn't know but it was easy enough to find...
Original ban started in 2010 and then the legislature had to finalize the bit about seaplanes, which weren't in the OMB jurisdiction...
https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/prozanski/Documents/prozanski_032513.htm
So not that long, last ~5 yrs.
cheers, John S.
On 11/16/2015 08:30 PM, Steve Trapp wrote:
When were motors banned on Lake Waldo? I like the idea, but I
> remember sailing my M-15 on Waldo Lake about 20 years ago, but do not > remember a ban on motors then. > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > -----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 8:12 PM > To: David Grah ; For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Waldo Lake Video > > Nice...I have kayak camped there, it's a gorgeous lake. No infernal > combustion motors allowed. Sail and paddle only. > I was hoping to sail there last season but didn't quite make it. > Definitely will this coming season! > Thanks for the advance re-motivation... :-) > > cheers, > John S. > > On 11/16/2015 06:49 PM, David Grah via montgomery_boats wrote: > > Montgomery 15 Sailing on Waldo Lake > >> -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com