I think going out in some strong winds for practice is a good idea. Of course, being out on a reservoir in gusts and pretty close to the boat ramp is not like being on the open water. Your story about the Monty taking the seas is much appreciated. I underestimate my M15. Thanks, Pete Winter Sky (Zimowsky) M377 outdoors writer and photographer www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com <http://www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com/> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors "Be with Tahlequah" Talhequah, you did this. From the day you lost your baby in the summer of 2018, then your 17-day tour of grief, you've brought the KEY crucial issues to the world to help us save your Orca family.
On Nov 15, 2018, at 1:21 AM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I just went out in a small vessel warning, severe weather watch in my 17 on purpose for experience. Double reef and furled genny..was a hoot! Tested me but the boat only messed up when I did and it saved me before I even knew twice. Stout little boats. That's why I hunted one down. Sail smart and itll have your back. A peaceful anchor on the lee shore of blake island, puget sound , and more of the same home. All good and never felt under boated.
El Nino
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018, 9:17 PM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, I remember it well! Fun sailing with you back then. I had a baggy jib I think. When I replaced the sails, the pointing improved. Still though, with the current and the waves, still not sure we woulda made it without motoring!
Daniel
On Nov 12, 2018, at 9:12 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
I was in some 20+ knots, gusting higher, with steep wind chop, in an M15 (Daniel Rich's) on Tomales Bay (CA) years ago, and we were trying to tack back upwind to the launch ramp. We couldn't make much if any headway, and ended up dropping sails and motoring. After we sorted that out, I noticed that at no point in trying to tack or giving up and dropping sails could I recall being worried about the seaworthiness of the boat in those conditions. I was nervous, but not about the boat. We barely even got splashed.
cheers, John
On 11/12/2018 03:42 PM, Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats wrote:
Thanks this should give me more confidence! Pete Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 12, 2018, at 15:52, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Pete,
One of the M-15 owners sailed his M15 from San Diego to Hawaii, and recently wrote a book about his trip. He was 22 years old and sailed solo.
He does an excellent bit of writing; talking about his preparations; his initial departure; then the growing thought, "what have I gotten myself into....?" and then the slow but steady growth of his feeling that it's really doable as the days pass / bad weather passes / and slowly he nears his destination, Hawaii.
It was a 38 day ocean crossing in 1982.
The book title is: "A Little Breeze to the West" by Michael Scott Mann ISBN No.9781517572242
It's great read.
Ciao,
Connie
On 11/12/2018 2:18 PM, Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats wrote: Hi Brad: I really do love my M15 and it fits the bill for almost anything. I just worry about cruising in big water with it. I worry that I might be fool hearty going in some of the places I want to go with the bigger boats. Being a whitewater river rafter and dory man, I’m very cautious Thanks for the discussion. Good winds Pete
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> On Nov 12, 2018, at 12:57, brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote: > > Pete, > I own a 15M only - but I can tell how much a difference it was > for me going from my 13 foot microcruiser to the M15. > > In my 13, almost everything is within arm's reach. JUst a slight stretch > in one direction or the other, and voila, I had what I needed or could do > what I needed. > > And when I sit one one cockpit side, it's easy for me to rest my heels on > the edge > of the seat of the other side, and lean back a tad and be happy as a clam. > > Not so with the M15. I found that to do almost anything, required a whole > step > one way or the other, and then the stretch. In other words, I had to go get > it (poor me!). > > And when sitting on one cockpit bench my feet did not so comfortably find a > resting > place right on the other (i'm 5'9, or used to be). They could get there, > but it doesn't seem > as comfortable. > > Yes, of course, I much enjoy the lavish cabin space (lavish to me at least) > in the M15 as > compared to my 13 footer, and appreciate the added storage space, stability > and control immensely. > It's just that added step or additional reach required to get things done, > that sometimes chaffs on me. > > My point I guess, is, that with regards to your going from a 15 to 17, > anticipate > that for every movement > you used to make in the M15 to accomplish something, doing the same in an > M17, will require even a little > bit more movement than what you're used to. Good luck. - Brad
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