Hi: By all means keep the rudder shipped. My 1978 M-17 has a short line attached to the rudder that is used to lift it into raised position then cleat it off. In the raised position very little of the rudder is immersed. cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -----Original Message----- From: Tom and Susan Wilkinson [mailto:ttwilki@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:26 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Rudder This is the first season I have kept Obsessus in a slip. Taking the rudder off and on is a pain. Any problems with keepng the rudder in the water all season? Tom Obsessus M17 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats