A question for the list...especially M17s, but 15s and 23s feel free to chime in. Just curious what kind of high wind conditions anyone has dealt with on their M17. 30 knots? 40? more? Anything that broke the rigging, blew out a sail, etc.? Part of the reason I'm asking... I've got a friend originally from South Africa who in his younger days sailed bigger boats, racing, in the Cape region, where he says regularly it blows 30+ and they would commonly go out in 40+. Triple and quadruple reefs and storm jibs for a nice day on the water... :-! cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com