x-authenticated : Sender SMTP authenticated by smtp.gotrain.org X-XM-SPF: eid=;;;mid=;;;hst=mx01.mta.xmission.com;;;ip=69.54.158.25;;;frm=bill@gotrain.org;;;spf=none X-XM-DomainKey: sender_domain=gotrain.org;;;sender=bill@gotrain.org;;;status=no signature X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 69.54.158.25 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bill@gotrain.org X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa02 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on sa02.xmission.com X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.7 required=8.0 tests=BAYES_50,DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE, MISSING_HB_SEP,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB,T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG,T_TooManySym_01, T_TooManySym_02,XMDateMe_00,XM_Body_Dirty_Words autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Combo: ****;For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> X-Spam-Relay-Country: XX US X-Spam-Report: * 0.6 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is a abuseable web server * [66.81.28.31 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] * 2.5 MISSING_HB_SEP Missing blank line between message header and body * 0.0 T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG BODY: T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG * 0.0 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60% * [score: 0.5000] * -0.0 DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE Not listed in DCC * [sa02 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1] * 0.5 XM_Body_Dirty_Words Contains a dirty word * 0.0 T_TooManySym_01 4+ unique symbols in subject * 1.0 XMDateMe_00 Spam To Date Someone * 0.0 T_TooManySym_02 5+ unique symbols in subject Subject: Re: [Spam--!] M_Boats: research X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:40:56 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mx01.mta.xmission.com) Jerry, Thanks for consulting the group for our opinions on a possible new boat. I love my M15, as I'm sure others enjoy their M17's and M23's. At times though, we all see something we would like to change, and I hope all of our suggestions will result in a wrinkle boat that we would all love to own, as well as attracting new owners to our wrinkle boat world. I'd vote for dividing the extra length between the cockpit and cabin. The cabin should at least have seating and headroom for two people. The cabin should have some kind of rain and spray resistant ventilation. I think there should be a kick up rudder, and an end of boom sheet system to keep the cockpit more open. Make the ballast non-corrosive lead, and the centerboard lead weighted fiberglass, with a more substantial stop pin. Go with an aluminum toe rail for versatility and easier maintenance. Also, make all cockpit lockers open all the way to the hull, for more storage, and easier access to bolts and backing plates. All control lines should lead to the cockpit for easier singlehanding. If the new boat is as efficient a sailer as the other M-boats, you might also want to put an attachment point on the stern for pulling skiers. I'm looking forward to seeing whatever you come up with, and I'm sure it'll out sail anything near its size. Bill Day M-15 363, "Gee Whiz!" jerry wrote:
Thanks again for your comments; they are still coming in and keep it up! I'm leaving this afternoon for an annual canoe camping/fishing in a wilderness are in the Sierras, and when I get back I'll review them and come up with some kind of concensus and post it. Looks like we are prejudiced in the way of wrinkles, as I suspected.
For my next column for SCA I'm working on an article on small boat interiors, which ties in with all this.
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