7 Jul
2010
7 Jul
'10
9:42 p.m.
Here are some alternatives for attaching jib sheets: http://www.msog.org/how-to/sails/kelch_jibclew.cfm Length: remember that the sheet has to run from (for one side) the stbd coaming (your hand) to the port coaming winch (around a few times) to the port turning block, around the port shrouds, the mast, the stbd shrouds, and back to the clew of the jib (bigger jib = more distance towards the stern) all times 2 plus extra for stopper knots and attachment to the sail. You may shave a wee bit out of that by saying that you want to start out at the leeward turning block plus a foot or so, but I prefer a little extra instead of having to chase down the tail. That way too I can get the new sheet all set up for the next tack.... My sheets are 5/16" sta-set. I like the 5/16" (runs well, but not too small as to be hard on hands), but sta-set is a little too stiff, imho. Perhaps someone else knows of a better brand with a softer lay. Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas Sally is looking for a boat to crew on: (novice, but eager to learn the ropes!) http://www.peppypawspoochpark.com/BettyFuzzySally.wmv > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe > Murphy > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:20 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Advice sought - attaching sheets to jib. > > Definitely not a carabiner. When that headsail starts whipping > around....ouch!! > I used on continuous line with a harness knot. On tacks the simple > knot slips around hatches and hardware without getting hung up. > Joe > Seafrog M17 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shawn Boles > To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:27 PM > Subject: M_Boats: Advice sought - attaching sheets to jib. > > > Hi: > > > > On another topic. > > > > a. What is preferred method for attaching sheets to jib cringle? > > > > 1. Single line pushed through cringle and looped back through bight? > > 2. Two sheets one w/ bowline through cringle, other w/ bowline > through bight of first? > > 3. Carabiner? > > 4. Brunell hook? > > > > b. What size, material, and length of rope are best for M17 > standard jib sheets? > > > > > > Cheers and thanks in advance, > > > Shawn Boles > Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > htmills@zoominternet.net > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:56 AM > To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Advice sought - wire to rope halyard > > > > I switched to all rope halyards too....easy, works well with modern > rope. > > > > Downhaul on jib; the main luff is within easy reach. > > > > > > Tod Mills > > M17 #408, 1987 galley model > > BuscaBrisas > > w/ four-legged furry crew Rudy & Gus > > > > and a foster pup named Sally who would probably be a super boat dog: > loves > > the water! > > http://www.peppypawspoochpark.com/BettyFuzzySally.wmv > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: montgomery_boats- > > > bounces+htmills=zoominternet.net@mailman.xmission.com > > > [mailto:montgomery_boats- > > > bounces+htmills=zoominternet.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > > > ndorf@surfbest.net > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:32 PM > > > To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com > > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Advice sought - wire to rope halyard > > > > > > Thanks Larry. I rig a downhaul for my jib but not the main. > > > > > > Headed to Oakland Estuary / Grand Ramp on Friday, launch btwn 10- > 11, to > > > practice and tune-up for the Monterey Cruiser Challenge with my > > > colleague > > > who is crewing with me for the event. > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > Original Message: > > > ----------------- > > > From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov > > > Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 09:09:06 -0700 > > > To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com > > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Advice sought - wire to rope halyard > > > > > > > > > Neil, if this any help, I use Stay-Set double braided for my > halyards. > > > Green tracer starboard, red tracer port. Either 1/4" or 5/16". > Use > > > either Jamestown distributors or West Marine (but only when a sale > is > > > on). Duckworks is good too but they have a limited selection of > tracer > > > colors. > > > > > > Do you have downhauls on your Monty? I have my jib rigged but not > the > > > main....that is next. > > > > > > Where are you headed next for sailing? ----Larry Hughston Old > 189. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com > > > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > > > ndorf@surfbest.net > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:20 AM > > > To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com > > > Subject: M_Boats: Advice sought - wire to rope halyard > > > > > > Hey guys, > > > > > > Looking for some advice here on how to make my main halyard safer. > > > > > > The wire-to-rope connection on my '85 M15 has proven to be unsafe > and > > > prone to tangles. It is rigged up exactly the way it was when I > > > acquired > > > it from the previous owner. The wire piece terminates with a > shackle, > > > as > > > I believe it should, but the rope end seems to be rather kludgy). > > > > > > The end of the rope part of the halyard is tied to a snap-type > shackle. > > > Rather than the shackle being just snapped on to the wire end > shackle, > > > it is fed through and then snapped back on the rope. > > > While this arrangement has proven to be secure enough, the problem > is > > > that it creates a big bulge (think pig in the snake), right at the > > > point > > > with the two shrouds affix to the mast and also near the top of the > > > fore-stay. Any amount of accidental buffeting in the wind of the > > > halyard, while raising or lowering the main, causes the wire to > rope > > > joint (weighty such as it is) to easily get twisted and caught up > top > > > around the standing rigging. And when it happens, (Murphy's Law) it > > > happens at the worst possible time. > > > > > > My question is, what is the factory standard setup for the main > > > halyard? > > > Was there supposed to be an eye splice at the end of the rope > halyard? > > > Bowline? Buntline? > > > > > > When it comes to sewing I'm all thumbs so I'm not inclined to try > doing > > > my own eye splice, so I'm hoping to hear that some other method has > > > proven to be effective and reliable. > > > > > > Thanks all, > > > > > > Neil Dorf > > > 1985 M15 #334 > > > Roseville CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi- > bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi- > bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on > > > MicrosoftR > > > Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi- > bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2981 - Release Date: > > > 07/07/10 06:36:00 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2981 - Release Date: > 07/07/10 06:36:00