Hi Ron, New England Ropes - Great Link - Thanks Free D/L of their splicing guide which covers different kinds of rope. I learned from the Splicing kit I got at West Marine. I had to redo my efforts several times before I finally saw what was happening and how the eye splice instructions work. Anyone having a tough time of it, I feel your pain! I (just now) put the words "eye splice" on U-TUBE www.youtube.com and came up with lots of videos. Maybe one of them will help. My encouragement is: Once you've done it one time, it will make sense. Maybe not the why, so much as the how to. Here is an example of a good reason to learn: http://www.msogphotosite.com/MSOG/b17smith/b17smith19.jpg I used a red and wide sharpie which bled a bit. I now use a fine black sharpie. Try U-Tube. Bill On 7/3/08, Ronnie Keeler <ronkeeler@hotmail.com> wrote:
I learned to do double braid splicing initially from Ashley's book of knots. Later I found the splicing guide from New England Ropes to be very good and my duaghters were able to spice using those instructions with only a few practice tries. It is a so important to have the proper size splicing fid and stuffer. www.neropes.com/SplicingGuideChoice.aspx. It may take a few practice tries to get it right.
Ron M17 #14 Griselda
From: seagray@embarqmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:07:17 -0400> Subject: M_Boats: Double braided splicing.> > Mark,> Where did you learn to do the double braided eye splices? I have gone > online to Sampson and downloaded their instructions but I still end up with > having wasted 27" of line.> For that matter, if anyone has found a good source of instructions please > let me know.> Thanks to all and have a happy 4th.> > Joe> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Escovedo" <m17flushdeck_amy@yahoo.com>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:57 PM> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where's my halyard?>
When I replaced the running rig on "AMY" I tossed the wire/rope halyards > > into my> > "old boat stuff" box and switched to double braid halyards. I spliced eyes > > onto the ends of the halyards and attached them to heavier "Cast" Wichard > > halyard shackles with a birds head loop, easier to replace than if the > > eyes were spliced through the shackle.> > As Amy is 31 years young, and the shackles were original, I thought she'd > appreciate the upgrade :) I know I feel better losing those skinny flat > shackles.> >> > Fair Winds> > Mark E> > M17F/D> > #103> > AMY> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----> > From: Danelle Landis <anniesark9@yahoo.com>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > > < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> > Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 9:11:02 AM> > Subject: M_Boats: Where's my halyard?> >> > I took my mom and stepdad sailing for the first time the other evening. > > My mom is very experienced at sailing, and her husband somewhat, and it > > turns out that I was really grateful for that crew that day!> > The sail started with me whining, because we were nearly becalmed. Sails > > flopping - *boring*. I'd wanted to delight them with the frisky, speedy > > sailing that my M17 "Ceto" can do.> > It was strange weather that evening though - warm but with an odd fog bank > > out in the open water that was shifting and blowing around. Where we > > were, it was sunny. As we were just talking, wishing for wind, all of a > > sudden came a perfect 12 or 15 k breeze, and we were happily whooshing > > along on a beam reach. The breeze was all over the place though, and we > > chased it around, as it veered wildly. Then we were becalmed again. Then > > we were zooming on a broad reach for awhile. Then wing-and-wing. It was > > just weird. Then we turned around to get back to the harbor, and it was > > the same thing - switching, unstable breezes, but we were able to stay > > mostly close hauled, pointing up well. It was fun and kept us on our > > toes.> > We got close to the harbor, and I was just about to start up the outboard > > and get the sails dropped when we felt this odd, sudden push of > > mist-filled wind. Then, BAM, we were hit *hard* by a wall of wind about > > 30 k - working jib up, main full up, both in tight because we'd been close > > hauled. My oh-so-helpful mom called out "We're at 40 degrees!" Okay, yes > > we were laughing and screeching like kids on a rollercoaster, but her > > husband George, at about 200 pounds, was on the lee side, and his rear was > > probably 3 inches from the water. He climbed back to the windward side, > > as I rounded up to lessen the heel a little, we eased the sheets and then > > we got pushed down to 40 degrees again (thanks Mom, for calling it out! ha > > ha) I gave in and popped the main, letting it swing out, as the wind was > > intensifying, and we were closer to shore than I liked. We swung around > > and went into irons, which was a welcome respite. We sat that way, for a > > few minutes,> > way too much wind blasting my poor old sails, while I had George take the > > helm and I got that outboard (Suzuki 4 hp) down and started faster than I > > ever have. (It's a little hard for me to get that bracket up and down) I > > powered us into the wind and my mom and George got the sails down. I've > > done a lot of thinking since, working out how I would have handled that if > I'd been alone.> > Unfortunately, when my mom lowered the jib, there was NO halyard. At some > > point, the wimpy little U-shaped shackle had just let go, and I guess the > > wind pressure had been keeping the sail up. When we were getting the main > > up to start this sail, I'd been dismayed to see that the same style > > shackle on the main halyard was all bent and weakened. I'd had to bend it > > around to get it to work. We hadn't noticed anything wrong with the jib > > shackle. Now we have to learn how to get the mast down to replace it.> > Are those thin U-shaped shackles the original hardware for the boat? I > > have a hard time believing that they were - how would they have held up > > for 25 years, then break in less than ten outings with us? I'm sure the > > previous owners encountered odd powerful gusts here and there too.> > Danelle> > M17 #378> > Ketchikan, AK> > http://web.mac.com/anniesark9/Site/Sailing_Ceto.html> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats> >>
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