Mark, Bill and the others are completely right about teak being just another maintenance issue. BUT what they forgot about teak trim is that CHICKS DIG IT. Toe rail trim doesn't affect seaworthiness or speed, and teak will be another factor that visually sets the M-16.5 apart from the clorox bottles (along with a lapstrake hull, ivory gelcoat, and opening port(s)). So this is the capitalist in me talking, and forgive me if I'm assuming too much: I suspect the M-16.5 is going to be a bit more pricey then a Potter or Catalina or Precision. If the M-16.5 is going to be successful it's not enough that we True Believers know it's heads and shoulders above the competition - It also has to look like something special to our significant others, and those who are not as enlightened as we. But somehow, Jerry, I think you already know this... By the way, ever since I was 12 years old I've wanted to tell a professional boatbuilder/designer how his boats should REALLY be designed and built. Thanks for giving me the opportunity. Jim M-17 "Spirit"