After seeing a 2 hp long shaft Honda push the new Sage 17 through the tides of Puget Sound, I am impressed with the motor. I particularly like the centrifugal clutch for a sailboat, because things get busy coming into a dock, and getting the gear shift in neutral on my 5 hp Honda is not always easy with everything else going on. Swivel steering seems primitive, but I have a Mariner 2 hp on my Potter 14, and it can do fine for maneuvering with a little practice. As for the noise, it is a good incentive for sailing when remotely feasible. I don't have a Honda 2 to look at, but I assume that a little plumbing would allow for connecting a remote tank when radical swiveling is not expected. Lastly, a Honda 2 is air cooled, so no problem sucking junk into the engine, or worries about overheating when you are way out on the bow. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Daniel Rich wrote:
I have an older Honda, and it works great. It is fairly quiet in my estimation. The newer Honda does have a centrifugal clutch, so it will idle without moving the boat. Nice feature. Wish I had it!
Daniel On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Ken Wheeler wrote:
Bill, I wasn't at Havsau. My sailing has been limited lately due to family needs. My M15 is #128. My motor runs Ok. What I don't like about it is mainly it's a 2 stroke which is prohibited on some lakes here in California. It's also about 10 lbs. heavier that the Honda. I don't use a remote tank as I only use it from the dock to the main body of the lakes where I sail. It's more power than I need. I even pulled a grandson standing on his boogie board with it. He thought has waterskiing. The neutral gear is nice which I will miss when I change to a Honda someday. I was surprised to hear that the Honda is noisy. The other Hondas I have owned (a 5hp and a 10hp) were, I thought, pretty quite and smooth. I suspect the single cylinder Honda would be a little rough at idle. All in all the 4 stroke and the weight favor the Honda for me. Ken
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Kaiser Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:55 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Boat Motor for a Monty15
Ken you are on to something here. Your motor works but what don't you like about it? You were at Havsau weren't you?
Let me know, Bil
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Ken Wheeler <wesi@comcast.net> wrote:
Bill, I'd trade you my 2 stroke 4hp Evinrude Yachtwin for that noisy Honda. It can take a remote tank, weighs 37 lb.s . Ken
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Kaiser Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:22 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Boat Motor for a Monty15
Thats what I have long shaft on adjustable mount M15 pros it is light reliable cons it is noisy particularly at higher RPM long distance motoring is ear plug territory and refill tank every hour and half of running approx. Bill M15 Phoenix AZ
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:21 PM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
honda 4-cycle 2HP long (20") shaft is a perfect motor for the M15.
if you have a moveable motor mount you _may_ be able to use the 15" shaft model.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com
--- On Fri, 6/10/11, WILLIAM FRANKLIN BROCK <wilbrc6@yadtel.net> wrote:
I was wondering what you all think for a Monty15 what size motor shaft I should get a long or short? I will most probably be sailing in lakes most of the time if not all the time.
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