On the topic of weather helm, take some time to review all the information here: http://www.msog.org/how-to/mastrake.cfm Note......this is a blend of 15 and 17 information (a lot of it) and the two are not interchangeable. Stick with what is pertinent to your boat. You may have overcooked it on the mast rake. The need for some forward offset to balance the rudder likely means the boat's rigging is not tuned to it's optimum. Put another way, a "balanced" rudder......one with offset........ will go "dead" and will mask a lot of problems, of which weather helm is a symptom. On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:20 AM, eisenee@aol.com wrote:
Rick My M17 came with a 1 piece rudder with no forward offset and Motu iti had a very heavy helm in 15 + winds. Last summer I bought a used semi-balanced { with forward offset } and it made a world of difference. I non have a very light helm in all winds. Eldor M17 Motu iti
-----Original Message----- From: Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, Apr 19, 2010 2:25 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: kick up rudder for M dink and M-17
Speaking of rudders, my IdaSailor kickup rudder recently suffered a split ead, so I am using the fixed rudder that came with my M-17 in 2005. I aven't used it much before, and have noticed that in a breeze I have ignificantly more weather helm that I had with the kickup rudder. The asic shape of both are similar, so I'm not sure why this should be the ase. Does anyone have an explanation? Thanks Rick -17 #6733 ynne L On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Hughston, Larry <Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov wrote:
Bones, I am a rare commenter but I would love to see a photo of the kick up rudder you made. I wonder if it would be worth it to make one for my little M-15. Is this rudder countered in front to allow for less weather helm? Thanks Bones. I read your posts and enjoy your long experience and knowledge. ---Larry H. In Sacramento M-15 restored hull 189 by Jerry.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of bownez@juno.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:21 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: kick up rudder for M dink and M-17
HI Robbin,
Look back in the newsletter archives, there is an article I wrote and pictures of the kick-up rudder I made for my M17. A great addition I added a few years back is a releasing cleat. I got the idea from Idasailor. A lanyard holds the lower section of the rudder in position until it strikes ground or an object in the water. At which point the cleat releases and allows the lower section to swing aft. I tested it several times in the North Channel!
Later,
Bones
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