RE: M_Boats: Hello from new-old M17 owner

Hi:

And here is a message from #276. Check the cockpit drain hose (you
mention cockpit scuppers - if you have those they were installed after
the boat was manufactured - in the original configuration there is a
single drain hole at the aft end of the cockpit which goes to a rubber
hose that connects to an outlet located between the rudder and the aft
end of the skeg) and the bow-eye. My guess is that she is taking water
through the bow eye which is wending its way under the v berth. 


cheers-
Shawn Boles
Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978)


-----Original Message-----
From: montgomery_boats-bounces+shawn=ori.org@mailman.xmission.com
[mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+shawn=ori.org@mailman.xmission.com] On
Behalf Of Howard Audsley
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:01 PM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hello from new-old M17 owner

Hello Max:

So you have #277? I'm sailing #278.....and #279 is also on the list
Looks
like we have that era covered!

Water is collecting under the V-berth? Not many places it could come
from
there except perhaps a knotmeter. Most of those have a thru hull hole,
and
only an O-ring to seal it.  That's the only thru hull I have under the
v-berth. There is also a hole for the galley drain under the
galley......and
if that was leaking, water could move forward to under the v-berth.  And
of
course the eye. There is a false front at the front of the
v-berth...between
the liner and the hull. But nothing up there should be below the water
line
to leak.  Do you have an access port in the forward part above the
v-berth....so you can get at the bow eye nuts? Install a new one with
backing plate perhaps? Hull deck joints leak on top of the v-berth. You
would see that water and your cushions would be wet.

If water is behind the bulkhead on your cabin floor, there is also the
cockpit drain to consider, and perhaps the centerboard trunk.   Not many
other holes where it could come from.

As for the transom, that doesn't sound good. If the cabin top has
separated
from the hull at the transom, and the plywood core has rotted out, I'd
fear
you are in for a major repair. The transom should not be hollow, except
well
below the level of the cockpit seats. The top half of the
transom....around
the motor cutout and where the chainplates bolt on, should be solid core
plywood....I'd guess 3/4 inch.    I can imagine how to do that repair,
but
it wouldn't be fun.

Howard
M17, #278
Audasea

On 11/23/04 4:33 PM, "Max Dawson" <mmmdawson80@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello one and all!  My name is Max, and I bought an M17 (hull#277)
last year
> site unseen from someone in Texas (I live in Knoxville, TN).  I was
very
> happy to discover that the claims written on the MSOG site regarding
this
> boat's sailing ability are true.  I sailed on lakes Sabine and Conroe
during
> my visit a few weeks ago, and was pleasantly surprised on both light
and
> heavy wind capability.  I purused the archives for some issues that I
am
> experiencing, and so far have not come across answers, so if I am not
being
> too much a bother I will ask them here.
> 1 - The boat is taking on a little water (around 3-5 gal. on an
> overnighter), which is collecting under the vee berth area.  The bow
eye is
> quite loose, but it appears to be around 12 inches up from the water
line.
> I thought it might have something to do with the scupper lines (they
drain
> very slowly), but if this is the case I would think the cabin sole
proper
> would be wet.  Any ideas?
> 2 - The transom is pushed in at the top some, and appears to be hollow
- is
> this correct?  I am wondering about the best way to repair it.  It is
quite
> sailable now, but I am concerned, since the top (at the separated
area) also
> has one of the gudgeons.  I want to make sure the rudder is
sufficiently
> supported.
> 
> I had sent a similar message on 11/19, but used another email address
- and
> the message was rejected on the list.  Hope this one goes through OK.
> Any personal emails may be sent to mdawson at utk.edu
> Thanks max
> 
> 
> 
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