Norm, You must be misreading this part " Then I'll use the jib downhaul, and maybe put the second reef in." He means: I'll use the jib downhaul (to get the jib down completely), and maybe put the second reef in (the main). You can have reef points installed in a jib, but it isn't very common. Yes, you would have to redo the sheets and tie in the reef points. Reef points in a jib, won't keep you off the fore deck Rik -----Original Message----- From: Norm Lane <nl@sagatech.com> Sent: May 5, 2005 3:52 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: RE: M_Boats: Second Reef I've never had a reef point in a jib before and don't really 'get' it. I mean, I can see how being able to reef it down from the cockpit would be great but don't you still have to go forward to rig the sheets and tie in the reef points? How do people actually use this? I plan to sail in San Francisco bay sometimes and may actually want to use it. Norm
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+nl=sagatech.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+nl=sagatech.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of LUDLOWD2@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 04:59 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Second Reef
George: I had the second reef installed on my relatively new EP main. I looked at a few photos of M-15's with a second reef and pointed to a spot and told the sail maker, put it here. It is fairly deep, just a little less than the distance that the first reef is from the boom to the second reef. In all honesty, i've never used the second reef but there it is, rigged and ready. My thoughts are that if I need the second reef, I'm heading to safe harbor in a hurry, probably with the jib down, the hatch covers closed, my lifejacket and safety harness on, and my trusty 2HP Honda running. I've thought about getting a "storm jib" say 70% but heck, I'm not going to the bow in those conditions to put it up. and I'm not going to start out sailing in a 15 ft boat in those conditions with the storm jib on. Most likely, I'll get caught one day with the 150 up when a summer t'storm catches me. Then I'll use the jib downhaul, and maybe put the second reef in. I' ran the 20 + mile Dauphin Island Race last year in 20+ knots with the first reef and the 110 and found I needed the power to hammer through the waves. I feathered the main in the gusts and she stayed on her feet. I have tried "jib only" but never in 25+ knot winds. I'm not sure why you need the second reef but if it's for insurance, consider how the boat is going to handle in those conditions and whether you will fly your jib or not. Fair winds, good company, and have a nice sail. Don _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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