Does it have a manual transmission? When I had my Catalina 22 I towed with with two very similar 80s Volvo 7 series cars, one an automatic, and the other a manual. I couldn't get it up the steepest ramps at all with the manual car, but with the automatic it was effortless... it climbed up nearly at idle. I think the automatic torque converter really helped- I would guess it generated at least 10 times the force from a standstill as the manual did. In my opinion a manual transmission is great for towing a boat, but only on cars with a low range 4WD, otherwise they can hardly generate any force from a standstill. Sincerely, Tyler Davis, CA M15 #157 Defiant ----- Original Message ----- From: "stevetrapp" <stevetrapp@q.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:30:49 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: sorry to bring it up again Towing My Subaru Forester did not seem to have enough muscle to get my M-15 up the launch ramp when I did outhaul. This happened at ramps on Lake Couer D' Alene in Idaho, and again at a ramp on South Puget Sound. Now I use my aging, but reliable Ford Ranger V-6. Steve M-15 # 335