When I first got my M15 there was no knot in my line. Connie came out one day to sail with me & quickly changed that & put a knot in the line. Even a beginner like myself could tell the difference in how she sailed. Once again thanks Connie. Bonnie M15, Moonbeam --- On Thu, 4/23/09, montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 74, Issue 36 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 11:19 AM Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Montgomery 15 Centerboard position (Mark Delin) 2. Re: Montgomery 15 Centerboard position (Steve and Diana Parsons) 3. Re: Montgomery 15 Centerboard position (Jeff Packer) 4. Re: Montgomery 15 Centerboard position (jerry) 5. Re: Furlers (Bonnie Kostka) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:58:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Delin <fernandelin@sbcglobal.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 Centerboard position Message-ID: <442184.40821.qm@web82601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi All, ? How far down is the M-15 centerboard supposed to go?? The previous owner of our M-15 tied a knot in the centerboard line which prevents it from going down all the way I think.? Right now, the board goes down far enough so that the trailing edge of the board is still within the keel trunk.? Is is supposed to go down further?? I suspect so, since I don't know how else to get access to the line.? Is there any reason that someone might not want the centerboard to go down all the way?? The boat seems to sail great as is! ? Thanks for any assistance! ? Mark M-15 Seabright San Diego ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:23:39 -0700 From: Steve and Diana Parsons <sparsons@canby.com> To: fernandelin@sbcglobal.net, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 Centerboard position Message-ID: <C01CC2BE-3C46-48F7-A6DC-502A5F0843E1@canby.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mark, The knot is the limit for the centerboard. That keeps the board from over extending and hitting against the trunk. Don't untie it. If you search the archives, you will find several threads on the topic. I don't remember the measurement, but it seems like it was about 13 inches of travel from all the way up, to the knot. Hope this helps. Steve On Apr 21, 2009, at 9:58 PM, Mark Delin wrote:
Hi All,
How far down is the M-15 centerboard supposed to go? The previous owner of our M-15 tied a knot in the centerboard line which prevents it from going down all the way I think. Right now, the board goes down far enough so that the trailing edge of the board is still within the keel trunk. Is is supposed to go down further? I suspect so, since I don't know how else to get access to the line. Is there any reason that someone might not want the centerboard to go down all the way? The boat seems to sail great as is!
Thanks for any assistance!
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------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:49:56 -0700 From: "Jeff Packer" <cjpacker@theofficenet.com> To: <fernandelin@sbcglobal.net>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 Centerboard position Message-ID: <000a01c9c351$397201f0$4606d5d1@jeffandchris> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I believe the trailing edge of the board should extend into the keel trunk a bit. It should not come out of the keel trunk. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Delin" <fernandelin@sbcglobal.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 Centerboard position Hi All, How far down is the M-15 centerboard supposed to go? The previous owner of our M-15 tied a knot in the centerboard line which prevents it from going down all the way I think. Right now, the board goes down far enough so that the trailing edge of the board is still within the keel trunk. Is is supposed to go down further? I suspect so, since I don't know how else to get access to the line. Is there any reason that someone might not want the centerboard to go down all the way? The boat seems to sail great as is! Thanks for any assistance! Mark M-15 Seabright San Diego _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:01:41 -0700 From: "jerry" <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 Centerboard position Message-ID: <D0D1EB116BEE41F7B57ED925A3629764@DDJ69SD1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response The important thing is that the board doesn't bear on the forward end of the slot. The knot is SUPPOSED to be there! jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Packer" <cjpacker@theofficenet.com> To: <fernandelin@sbcglobal.net>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:49 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 Centerboard position
I believe the trailing edge of the board should extend into the keel trunk a bit. It should not come out of the keel trunk.
Jeff
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Delin" <fernandelin@sbcglobal.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 Centerboard position
Hi All,
How far down is the M-15 centerboard supposed to go? The previous owner of
our M-15 tied a knot in the centerboard line which prevents it from going down all the way I think. Right now, the board goes down far enough so that the trailing edge of the board is still within the keel trunk. Is is supposed to go down further? I suspect so, since I don't know how else to get access to the line. Is there any reason that someone might not want the centerboard to go down all the way? The boat seems to sail great as is!
Thanks for any assistance!
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------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:19:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Bonnie Kostka <bonniekostka@sbcglobal.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Furlers Message-ID: <485122.56113.qm@web82402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have been given a Harken Furler for my M15 and was told my sail would have to be cut down and a wire run through it.? Also the small boat Harken Furler doesn't go on your headstay but either behind or infront of it.? Does anyone have any experience with this? I would appreciate your input. ? Bonnie M15, Moonbeam --- On Tue, 4/21/09, montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 74, Issue 35 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 9:42 PM Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. too little time (dik lang) 2. PP finaleee... (Lou) 3. Re: too little time (Gary M Hyde) 4. Re: too little time (bownez@juno.com) 5. Re: PP finaleee... (John Ledger) 6. Re: PP finaleee... (W David Scobie) 7. Re: PP finaleee... (John Ledger) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:55:57 -0700 From: dik lang <diklang32@hotmail.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: too little time Message-ID: <COL116-W28143412A5253562053710AC760@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" It has come to that point in my life that I must give up some of my activities. Sorry that Montgomery 17 is on the list. Thought I would announce it here first because we all know how tongues wag when we see a Monty listed on craigslist! My 1983 M-17 Sweet Pea is now officially for sale. I probably won't actually get around to listing it for a couple days. Asking $5000, 4stroke 4 horse Suzuki with maybe 15 hrs on it, rusty trailer with new tires galvanized wheels, new springs, new standing rigging, two anchors, new bulkhead mount compass. Out of the water at my house on Vashon Island, Wa. DIK LANG diklang32@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1b_explore_042009 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:28:19 -0400 From: "Lou" <capnlou@ec.rr.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: PP finaleee... Message-ID: <1EF966C3BB2645ADBACD0CD609066CB1@PHOTOPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I hate to have made such a Boo Hoo about a bunch of P__ P___ and if it were just for me my good old bucket would surley do. I do appreciate everyones comments and now I feel good about buying the Tetford 135 unit. My thanks to all and especially Jerry for filling me in on the history of the PP... Lou Aliotta ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:50:40 -0700 From: Gary M Hyde <gmhyde1@mac.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: too little time Message-ID: <28FA5FCE-B3FE-45C9-BC76-1A1CC0C019C6@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Dik: Sorry you won't be sailing with us. We will miss you. --Gary Hyde 2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2' On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:55 PM, dik lang wrote:
It has come to that point in my life that I must give up some of my activities. Sorry that Montgomery 17 is on the list. Thought I would announce it here first because we all know how tongues wag when we see a Monty listed on craigslist!
My 1983 M-17 Sweet Pea is now officially for sale. I probably won't actually get around to listing it for a couple days.
Asking $5000, 4stroke 4 horse Suzuki with maybe 15 hrs on it, rusty trailer with new tires galvanized wheels, new springs, new standing rigging, two anchors, new bulkhead mount compass. Out of the water at my house on Vashon Island, Wa.
DIK LANG
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------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:10:46 GMT From: "bownez@juno.com" <bownez@juno.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: too little time Message-ID: <20090420.221046.4835.0@webmail19.vgs.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dik, Say it isn't so! Someone is going to get a very fine M17. Wishing you the best. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Free quote and debt consolidation information. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIk3lyXU5ZEKuKIF2WdkDc3eco... ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:46:45 -0700 From: "John Ledger" <johnledger@aoi.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: PP finaleee... Message-ID: <450F19D17C66E44E91CB8AB11B7BE39302050B87@aoint2.aoi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone know if this method works for a M15? ( the PP modification, not the bucket) JOHN In Oregon -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Lou Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:28 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: PP finaleee... I hate to have made such a Boo Hoo about a bunch of P__ P___ and if it were just for me my good old bucket would surley do. I do appreciate everyones comments and now I feel good about buying the Tetford 135 unit. My thanks to all and especially Jerry for filling me in on the history of the PP... Lou Aliotta _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:26:08 -0700 (PDT) From: W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: PP finaleee... Message-ID: <279306.76058.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 john: ? the discussion has been about the M15. ? a quote below from jerryM ? ? dave scobie M15 #288 - SCRED visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-sced ? ? quoting jerryM- ? jerry@jerrymontgomery.org ? I think this is all documented in the archives.? I originally tooled the 15 for an exact fit for the PP35.? vA few years later Thetford dropped the 35, replacing it with the 135. I bought all the 35's that I could find in the pipeline, and when they ran out I retooled the mold to fit the 135. I have fit 135's to the 35 bases using a hair dryer, and others have done it using hot water.? In both cases patience and a beer in hand are helpful. jerry --- On Tue, 4/21/09, John Ledger <johnledger@aoi.org> wrote: Does anyone know if this method works for a M15? ( the PP modification, not the bucket) JOHN In Oregon -----Original Message----- I hate to have made such a Boo Hoo about a bunch of P__ P___ and if it were just for me my good old bucket would surley do.? I do appreciate everyones comments and now I feel good about buying the Tetford 135 unit.? My thanks to all and especially Jerry for filling me in on the history of the PP...? Lou Aliotta ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:43:43 -0700 From: "John Ledger" <johnledger@aoi.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: PP finaleee... Message-ID: <450F19D17C66E44E91CB8AB11B7BE393013EE7C0@aoint2.aoi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks, Should have caught it. ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com on behalf of W David Scobie Sent: Tue 4/21/2009 6:26 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: PP finaleee... john: the discussion has been about the M15. a quote below from jerryM dave scobie M15 #288 - SCRED visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-sced quoting jerryM- jerry@jerrymontgomery.org I think this is all documented in the archives. I originally tooled the 15 for an exact fit for the PP35. vA few years later Thetford dropped the 35, replacing it with the 135. I bought all the 35's that I could find in the pipeline, and when they ran out I retooled the mold to fit the 135. I have fit 135's to the 35 bases using a hair dryer, and others have done it using hot water. In both cases patience and a beer in hand are helpful. jerry --- On Tue, 4/21/09, John Ledger <johnledger@aoi.org> wrote: Does anyone know if this method works for a M15? ( the PP modification, not the bucket) JOHN In Oregon -----Original Message----- I hate to have made such a Boo Hoo about a bunch of P__ P___ and if it were just for me my good old bucket would surley do. I do appreciate everyones comments and now I feel good about buying the Tetford 135 unit. My thanks to all and especially Jerry for filling me in on the history of the PP... 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