I went sailing yesterday down around the Beaufort Inlet (NC) and had to tack quite a few times and never had the 130 get hung up. So I'm happy with the arrangement. I also set up a back stay tensioner and found that it's helpful for reefing the headsail. Keeps that added weight right around the flexible furler a little more taut. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary M Hyde To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 12:59 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Advice sought - attaching sheets to jib. Joe: I'm with you. the harness knot works well, doesn't slip, and doesn't often hang up on the shrouds. My M17 has a roller furling jib, so the sheet doesn't need to move to different head sails. --Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Jul 7, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Joe Murphy wrote:
Definitely not a carabiner. When that headsail starts whipping around....ouch!! I used on continuous line with a harness knot. On tacks the simple knot slips around hatches and hardware without getting hung up. Joe Seafrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Boles To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: M_Boats: Advice sought - attaching sheets to jib.
Hi:
On another topic.
a. What is preferred method for attaching sheets to jib cringle?
1. Single line pushed through cringle and looped back through bight?
2. Two sheets one w/ bowline through cringle, other w/ bowline through bight of first?
3. Carabiner?
4. Brunell hook?
b. What size, material, and length of rope are best for M17 standard jib sheets?
Cheers and thanks in advance,
Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978)
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of htmills@zoominternet.net Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:56 AM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: Re: M_Boats: Advice sought - wire to rope halyard
I switched to all rope halyards too....easy, works well with modern rope.
Downhaul on jib; the main luff is within easy reach.
Tod Mills
M17 #408, 1987 galley model
BuscaBrisas
w/ four-legged furry crew Rudy & Gus
and a foster pup named Sally who would probably be a super boat dog: loves
the water!
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Thanks Larry. I rig a downhaul for my jib but not the main.
Headed to Oakland Estuary / Grand Ramp on Friday, launch btwn 10-11, to
practice and tune-up for the Monterey Cruiser Challenge with my
colleague
who is crewing with me for the event.
Neil
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From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 09:09:06 -0700
To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Advice sought - wire to rope halyard
Neil, if this any help, I use Stay-Set double braided for my halyards.
Green tracer starboard, red tracer port. Either 1/4" or 5/16". Use
either Jamestown distributors or West Marine (but only when a sale is
on). Duckworks is good too but they have a limited selection of tracer
colors.
Do you have downhauls on your Monty? I have my jib rigged but not the
main....that is next.
Where are you headed next for sailing? ----Larry Hughston Old 189.
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Hey guys,
Looking for some advice here on how to make my main halyard safer.
The wire-to-rope connection on my '85 M15 has proven to be unsafe and
prone to tangles. It is rigged up exactly the way it was when I
acquired
it from the previous owner. The wire piece terminates with a shackle,
as
I believe it should, but the rope end seems to be rather kludgy).
The end of the rope part of the halyard is tied to a snap-type shackle.
Rather than the shackle being just snapped on to the wire end shackle,
it is fed through and then snapped back on the rope.
While this arrangement has proven to be secure enough, the problem is
that it creates a big bulge (think pig in the snake), right at the
point
with the two shrouds affix to the mast and also near the top of the
fore-stay. Any amount of accidental buffeting in the wind of the
halyard, while raising or lowering the main, causes the wire to rope
joint (weighty such as it is) to easily get twisted and caught up top
around the standing rigging. And when it happens, (Murphy's Law) it
happens at the worst possible time.
My question is, what is the factory standard setup for the main
halyard?
Was there supposed to be an eye splice at the end of the rope halyard?
Bowline? Buntline?
When it comes to sewing I'm all thumbs so I'm not inclined to try doing
my own eye splice, so I'm hoping to hear that some other method has
proven to be effective and reliable.
Thanks all,
Neil Dorf
1985 M15 #334
Roseville CA
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