Kendall, If you are serious about trying to prevent turning turtle you might try one of these: http://www.crewsaver.co.uk/Crewsaver/Crewsaver_Leisure_Products/index.html?c... It is a slim CO2 inflatable that attaches to the top of the mast. I have never heard of an M15 turning turtle. I doubt if it could happen on normal coastal water or Inland Lakes - Great lakes excluded. The worst story I ever heard was an M15 on a western lake, no forward motion, no wind, sails sheeted in tight - 70 mph gust off the mountain broadside and the boat fully broached on it's side. The boat took extensive water into the interior cabin but did not turtle. I have removed some of the floatation from my M15 and am not personally concerned about the boat having positive flotation. I do keep crayfish and crab traps under the forward berth but I would not put anything I use regularlly (like and Anchor) under there if you keep the cushions on. It is too inaccessible for frequent use. If you remove the screws that hold the wooden access panel out, and you take water in the cabin the styrafoam will float right out of the compartment. Thanks Doug Kelch kdocter@bellsouth.net wrote: Has anyone got a war story about turning turtle on a 15? James, you mentioned an airbag. When I was diving many years ago, we had a small inflatable rubber thing. It used a co2 cartridge and it would inflate on demand and blow up the rubber "balloon" to the eqivilent of 80# of lift. About the size of a big beach ball. It had a lanyard on it to secure it to whatever you were trying to lift. I wonder if you ever "turtled" if something like that might pull the mast up to the waterline again. Randy, Thanks for your comment. It almost sounds to me like I'd be better off with less flotation rather than more. True? Kendall in NW Louisiana M-15 #164 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.