After having spent nearly 20 years sailboarding and windsurfing, I got my first sailboat an M-17 ,"ForePlay". I gave my wife the choice of an ultralight, a BMW motorcycle or the sailboat. Unfortunately, as a windsurfer with a very short board, I was used to looking for storm conditons and wind above 30 knots. Fortunately, as the storm approached our high mountain lake, Bear Lake, I thought to let my wife and son out at the marina before heading back out to see what the M-17 could do. I shrugged off the small boat warnings from the Coast Guard (I was the only boat on the 27 mile long lake). I had already rigged the storm sail and reefed the main as the wind came ripping accross the water. I decided to head into the wind and ease off as wind force allowed. At the peak the wind hit over 50 knots. I was able to handle the boat with storm sail alone. The biggest problem came when it came time to head back to the marina. The waves were 4-5' and I could not leave the tiller to get the sails down. By the time I motored back into the Marina, my jib sheet had broken loose from its shakle and was flailing miserably and I was getting hypothermic. I motored back rather humbled. My wife was standing next to the Coast Guard who had been watching my fiasco through binoculars. His comment at my wife's concern was "Its a sailboat, if it goes over, it will pop up again." I don't know about other boats, but I have plenty of confidence in the Monty. I immediatly set about rigging a downhaul for my jib. randy M-17 Utah ----- Original Message ----- From: <montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 54, Issue 23
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Today's Topics:
1. RE: Sailing out to Ventura and Anacapa Island (Hughston, Larry) 2. Sail stop (Joe Moore) 3. RE: worst conditions to take an m15 (ORLANDO VELEZ) 4. Re: Sail stop (Bill Tosh) 5. Re: First M17 sail (Larry E Yake) 6. Re: Sail stop (judy casino) 7. Link for Sail Stop West Marine (m15@frontiernet.net) 8. Re: Looking to meet an M17 owner in my neighborhood (Brandon McClintock)
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:48:15 -0700 From: "Hughston, Larry" <Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov> Subject: RE: M_Boats: Sailing out to Ventura and Anacapa Island To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <5EFE2F415E9DBE4FAABCC2040AC11AB701FB4978@smf00exch103.dgsaccounts.dgs.ca.gov>
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Now I feel good. I just went sailing on a great Monty 23. -Thanks, ---L. In Sacramento. (M-15 hull # 189)
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov@mailman.xmiss ion.com] On Behalf Of Nebwest2@aol.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:54 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Sailing out to Ventura and Anacapa Island
Got back last night from our trip to the Channel Islands area. Posted a couple of quick movies made with our camera. It's not really a video camera but lets you take some quick clips. Had a great time sailing with the Socal Potters. Great bunch of folks. trailered over on Wed (7 hour trip). We sailed out of Channel Islands Harbor on Thurs to Ventura Harbor and spent the night, Friday we sailed back down the coast to Channel Islands, and Saturday made the trip out to Anacapa Island (about 12 or 13 miles offshore). Great weather. Sailed all the way usually at 5 knots or better. The movies are posted on the home page of our website. No sound to the second one. Can't make it work for some reason and I'm tired of fighting it! Enjoy.
www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com
Sean M23 Dauntless
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:24:45 -0400 From: Joe Moore <joemoore@josephmoore.com> Subject: M_Boats: Sail stop To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <C2FB949D.D806%joemoore@josephmoore.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
I have managed to lose my sail stop that fits into the mainsail track on my M15. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement and what specific size?
Thanks
Joe Moore "Midnight Passage" M15 #641
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:42:17 -0700 (PDT) From: ORLANDO VELEZ <velezo@verizon.net> Subject: RE: M_Boats: worst conditions to take an m15 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <424633.19753.qm@web84005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Thank you Bill for your advise, I was tired swimming behind the boat. Thank you all for your input is comforting to know that the M15 can take that much. And to Jerry as long as everybody else in the boat is enjoying who cares about one passenger.
Orlando Velez M15
"William B. Riker" <wriker@mindspring.com> wrote: So reduce the risk. Pee in can and dump it over the side. Much safer. And less visible.
Bill Riker M15 - #184 Storm Petrel and peecan
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bob Olson Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:59 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: worst conditions to take an m15
I don't think I've been out in the wildest conditions of any M-boat sailor, but earlier this year, I was out with the Potter group in 25 to 30 knots of wind on the south puget sound. I had my main reefed and the jib down. I don't think I would have had any sail up at all with 5 more knots of wind. So, personally, I'd put max wind speed at around 30 knots. Any more than that, you might need a sailboard.
But, the most miserable time was motoring back to our launch site-- the next day--into a head wind of 25 knots and driving rain--10 miles or so. Beating into 3' swells and the honda 2hp barely making headway. I was never really fearful of capsizing, but froze my ass off 'cause I didn't dress warm enough. Thought hypothermia would get me first.
My guess is the most dangerous aspect of sailing is probably getting heatstroke or hypothermia. Or falling overboard while peeing.
--Bob Olson M-15 Seaquel
On Aug 27, 2007, at 7:10 PM, ORLANDO VELEZ wrote:
Hello With so many knowledgeable sailors in this group I wold like to ask what has been the worst weather / sea conditions you have experienced and what are the worst condition that an m15 can take?
thanks Orlando Velez M15
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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:42:22 -0500 From: "Bill Tosh" <billt@eastex.net> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sail stop To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <006801c7eaa7$0b7196a0$0101a8c0@tower> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
1/2 ",,,,West Marine........ ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Moore To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats<montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:24 PM Subject: M_Boats: Sail stop
I have managed to lose my sail stop that fits into the mainsail track on my M15. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement and what specific size?
Thanks
Joe Moore "Midnight Passage" M15 #641
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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:17:37 -0700 From: Larry E Yake <leyake@juno.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: First M17 sail To: rick@skyko.com,montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <20070829.201737.3076.2.leyake@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Note this is a good time to ask, is the foot of the mainsail supposed to stay in the slot in the boom arm? My wife asked, and I just was not quite >sure. The rope bead along the foot just doesn't seem thick enough to ride in the groove on the boom...
Looks like you have a loose footed main, which is meant to fly free of the boom. Your pictures don't show it, but I assume there's a slug at the clew which runs in the slot in the boom.
Sounds like you had a great first sail. Thanks for the report.
Larry
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Message: 6 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:52:39 -0700 (PDT) From: judy casino <jratesq@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sail stop To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <669349.91922.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi Joe, The one Bob Eeg supplied to me with my new M15 is a Davis track stop with a 1/2" diameter round slide ( Davis part number 02350). You can buy them at West Marine (and I'm sure many other sailing retailers). At West Marine, they are $8.99. The one supplied to me with the boat by Eeg appears to fit perfectly, and the round slide shape rides smoothly in the mast track. I recommend that you buy two, as they are easy to lose overboard! Regards, Ron Casino --- Joe Moore <joemoore@josephmoore.com> wrote:
I have managed to lose my sail stop that fits into the mainsail track on my M15. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement and what specific size?
Thanks
Joe Moore "Midnight Passage" M15 #641
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Message: 7 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:07:57 +0000 From: m15@frontiernet.net Subject: M_Boats: Link for Sail Stop West Marine To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <20070830050757.kbdua658a10k84g8@webmail.frontiernet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed"
Joe here is the link for West Marine that Judy spoke of. You may have to cut and paste the link.
Christian F.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/...
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Message: 8 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:42:58 -0700 From: "Brandon McClintock" <brandonmcc@usa.net> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Looking to meet an M17 owner in my neighborhood To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <780LHdgp77320S04.1188456178@cmsweb04.cms.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I'm not quite sure how this works but I am interested in knowing if there are any M17 owners in the Sacramento area who would be willing to show me their boat. For a number of reasons I've decided to explore the world of trailer sailing. The M17 seems to be a truly fine boat for this but I have not actually seen one up close and personal. I live in Woodland and would enjoy meeting anyone who could offer advice / suggestions on the boat's characteristics. I now own (and am desperately trying to sell) both a Cal 2-24 (berthed in Richmond) and a Kingfisher 22 " SHANTI " which comes on her own trailer.
Looking forward to hearing from anyone who cares to respond.
Brandon McClintock 530-662-0602 / 530-908-1788
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