To whom it may concern, I have the old style Ida Rudder on my 17 and plan to sell it for their newer version. If a kickup rudder is all you want than that is what this is. It uses a line to raise the bottom half of the rudder, I use it to hold the rudder blade up just a bit when launching and retrieving the boat. Asking $250 plus shipping. I started with the stock wooden rudder and the shape of this Ida rudder really does seem to add to the performance of the boat. Pictures upon request. Fair winds, Tom B <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>