My '74 M17 came with nicopress stays & shrouds. They work & are strong enough but are bulky, tend to snag lines more, tend to hang up/get stuck crooked at worst possible time(s) in mast raising. Probably not the originals, but I don't know if the originals back then were swaged or nicopress (Jerry?). I've replaced forestay & backstay recently (to accommodate jib furler) with swaged end stays. Shrouds are still Nicopress but probably sometime next few years I will replace them also. Partly preventative maintenance, since I don't know the full history of the existing shrouds (age, fabricator). Partly for a cleaner lower-snag/less-hangup standing rigging. cheers, John On 04/02/2019 10:41 AM, casioqv@usermail.com wrote:
It sounds like you have nicopress rigging. That's perfectly suitable for standing rigging, and is just as strong and long lasting as machine swaged ends. Some people don't think it looks as neat/clean, and it is more likely to snag on things. For these reasons, you won't find this type of rigging anymore from the factory on modern sailboats- but it's perfectly safe and serviceable.
Sincerely, Tyler
----- Original Message ----- From: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:32:32 AM Subject: M_Boats: Standing rigging?
I'm turning into the man of 1000 questions. So I went to Defender Marine last Thursday for their sale. I ordered a couple of replacement buckles with toggle nuts to replace the backstay and headstay ones, as they don't turn well any more, and one had a bend. I received them yesterday, and I got T bolts instead of toggle nuts. Ok, so I called Johnson today to verify that they're as strong as what I had with toggle nuts. No problem there, but in conversation it came up that my standing rigging is 1/8 wire with thimbles and 2 swaged ovals on each end of each cable. Was this standard? Johnson suggested getting rid of it and in fact suggested switching it all over to machine swaged ends because mine are not suitable for standing rigging. What is the consensus here?
-Gerry
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