I second Larry's comments about the Idasailor. Not only is the kickup feature nice but the foil design of the rudder is a real hidden plus. Joe' M17 Seafrog ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Pegg To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:08 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: kick up rudder for M dink and M-17 Idasailor is the place for Very nice kick up rudders. We love ours it is much easier than the old one. Just search Idasailor Idaho and it should come up. Joel could not be nicer, Tell him Larry recommended him. BTW they have a Nor' Sea 27 in the shop that will be Sweet when they are done. The owner moved up and it is for sale. At your service Larry Pegg M-17 Pilgrim #55 -----Original Message----- From: robbin roddewig <robbin.roddewig@verizon.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sat, Apr 17, 2010 9:52 am Subject: M_Boats: kick up rudder for M dink and M-17 I have been considering modifying my rudders to allow beaching and kick up (rather than pop off or tear off) for my M-10 and M-17. I had issues last fall with my M-17 rudder hitting bottom and popping out of the grundgeons and leaving the boat, well, rudderless. I am rebuilding my M-10 rudder so modifying it would be first on my list. Can anyone point to some information on modifying the rudders? Thanks in advance Robbin _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!