16 Jan
2014
16 Jan
'14
12:21 a.m.
I worried about 1/4 when I first installed the line--I admit I got talked into that size by the guy who sold me the line, and smaller is better aloft like that (although frankly, I don't worry about those sorts of things too much). There is a cabin-top winch and I use it (almost never with a winch handle, but sometimes). I changed the main halyard out as well, and there's only a horn cleat on the mast there, but it hasn't proven to be a problem (my main is bolt rope, and I guide the luff of the sail into the slot when I raise the main) and it sweats up pretty well. I use a boom down haul (the gooseneck is a slider) to tighten up the luff in higher winds, so I don't need to hoist the main all that tightly, and I'm almost always wearing sailing gloves, so that helps too. I went to all rope from wire/rope, and changed out the sheaves at the masthead as well--it was just time to smooth all that out. I'll let you know how the small cleat install goes. I did the same thing for the downhaul--fabricated a pedestal that made the lead more fair. It ain't that pretty, but it works well, and I wouldn't live without a downhaul. t t _/\_ On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com>wrote: > Sounds elegant, and smart. How is that 1/4 inch low stretch on the hands > for hauling?Or are you using a halyard winch? > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Tom Smith <openboatt@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I haven't taken the residue off yet, Thomas, but I'll be doing that soon. > > I'm sizing the cleat down as I've adopted a 1/4 low stretch line for the > > jib halyard. The exiting large cleat, though not in bad shape, allowed > the > > halyard to slip a bit under hard use. > > > > Because I have a phobia about drilling holes in my boat, I'm going to > > fashion a cleat pedestal that will allow me to use the existing holes, > and > > change the angle of the lead a bit to improve line capture. I'll keep > you > > posted. t > > > > > > > > t _/\_ > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > Will you try "Goo gone" to get off the residue or did the thing come > off > > > cleanly? > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Tom Smith <openboatt@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > To report back, I used a combination of my trusty Milwaukee heat gun > > > plus a > > > > stiff putty knife to remove this cleat. Worked well. Once I got the > > > knife > > > > started at the end, I simply heated the blade and made slow progress > > > until > > > > the cleat popped off. Thanks for the tips sailors. t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t _/\_ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Tom Smith <openboatt@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good idea. Now where did I put that old stratocaster? > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it's 5200, thank goodness. t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t _/\_ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:55 PM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> One old trick is to take a thin guitar string and use it to "saw" > > back > > > > >> and forth under the fitting. Also, is there any chance someone > > bedded > > > > the > > > > >> cleat with 3M 5200? In that case, trying to pry it off almost > > > certainly > > > > >> will damage the deck. I avoid that stuff like the plague but I > > > > understand > > > > >> someone does sell a solvent for it. > > > > >> > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> > > > > >> From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> > > > > >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > > > > >> montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:49:49 PM > > > > >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Removing stubborn clamcleat > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks Gary. I like the many solutions approach--I don't have to > > make > > > a > > > > >> decision that way. And yes, heat + solvent could very well lead to > > too > > > > >> much adventure... t > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> t _/\_ > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:35 AM, <GILASAILR@aol.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Tom, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Don't apply heat and solvent at same time - more contemplation > has > > > > >> occurred > > > > >> > - we think that may have negative effects unless your insurance > > > > coverage > > > > >> > is exceptional. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > GO duh > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > In a message dated 1/14/2014 12:32:42 P.M. US Mountain Standard > > > Time, > > > > >> > GILASAILR@aol.com writes: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Tom, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > A little solvent of your choice -lacquer thinner, acetone helps > - > > my > > > > >> genoa > > > > >> > > > > > >> > camcleat was 'grown on' and that helped - heat helps -we have > that > > > in > > > > >> > abundance down here- left a lot of residue - dark brown bedding > > > > compnd - > > > > >> > used > > > > >> > everything in the quiver - finally a brass brush & acetone + an > > > exacto > > > > >> > knife > > > > >> > blade (#7) to clean out the last bits - lotsa contemplative time > > > > whilst > > > > >> > scraping and pondering the real meaning of life. After that > > exercise > > > > - I > > > > >> > had > > > > >> > it ALL figgered out - I am a self actualized boat grunt! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Give it hell! > > > > >> > GO - > > > > >> > going racing agin the big guns this weekend! 2014 WICR/Potter > > > > >> > Invitational > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > In a message dated 1/14/2014 11:04:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard > > > Time, > > > > >> > jerry@jerrymontgomery.org writes: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Tom- I don't know of a sure cure, but if you made a little, > sharp, > > > > >> > hardwood > > > > >> > wedge and just got it started, then tapping it in more as the > > cleat > > > > >> > loosened > > > > >> > up, it would probably work, I've done that before with no > > problems. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > It's probably just frozen on! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > jerry > > > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> > From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> > > > > >> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > > > > >> > <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:58 AM > > > > >> > Subject: M_Boats: Removing stubborn clamcleat > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I'm changing out the foresail halyard clamcleat on the > cabin-top > > > of > > > > my > > > > >> > > M17. Man, that baby is on there. Removed the bolts/nuts, but > she > > > no > > > > >> > want > > > > >> > > to move. I hesitate to pry because it's so well seated I'm > > afraid > > > a > > > > >> > chunk > > > > >> > > of 'glass will come up too. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Any suggestions on how to get this thing loosened up? The > > careful > > > > >> > > application of heat? Some kind of solvent? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Suggestions appreciated. Tom > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > t _/\_ > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > -- > > > > >> > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > > > > >> > SPAMfighter has removed 9866 of my spam emails to date. > > > > >> > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Do you have a slow PC? 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