Smiley, Too bad about scraping the maiden voyage. I ended up floating the M-10 out of Mariners Point. It was a nice day with a steady breeze. Unfortunately, as you stated, it did get to 95 degrees. So when the wind was at your back, it did get a little toasty. To answer your questions, your right about the buoyancy on the rudder. Also, your assumptions is correct about the tiller extensions. It's best to get an extension so that you can position yourself next to the cabin. I also use the middle hole for the forestay and attach my jib to the rear hole. I have rigged my jib down haul to the forward hole. Skip M-15 1982 #201 'Wild Guppy' M-10 197x #177 'Lil Guppy' -----Original Message----- From: Karen and Smiley <magoo252@comcast.net> To: Montgomery Sailboat Forum <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 12:49 pm Subject: M_Boats: Rudder question M 15 We aborted today's maiden voyage due to excessive heat in the mid Atlantic, redicted highs are around 95F so no go for this guy. We instead rigged M 15 616 in the school parking lot to see the sail plan and the rigging set up. ICE and Stan Froseth did a great job on everything, if your reading this ot from the Aloha State Thanks Stan. I do have one question on the rudder, well actually two. The first is the echanism on dry land seems to not want to pull the rudder up in the orizontal position, I assume it's because I have no buoyancy from the water elow on the wood blade? Second do you sailors use a tiller extension to ove your body weight up forward? Man the rigging and set up on the M15 is a reeze. Oh I forget to ask when do you attach the forestay to the deck fitting, mine s on the second hold back and that means that I need to attach the jib to he first hole forward? This seems odd so maybe a fitting that will slip nto the last hole will be best. Thanks for your feedback. Smiley magoo252@comcast.net _______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!