Hi all, As promised a while back, a report on towing. In particular for those wondering about what a "small" car can do with an M17. Yesterday I drove from Maple Valley, WA to Ashland, OR, 450 miles, mostly on I-5, towing my recently purchased 1974 M17 "Pajarita" with my 2001 Subaru Outback wagon. Basically, it works just fine. I had to shift down for some of the steeper uphill grades on I-5 in southern Oregon. I cruised at around 60 mph on the freeway, except for a few slower uphills. Nothing I wasn't used to from owning a 71 VW van for many years a while back :-). I can definitely tell there's something wagging my tail a bit, but got used to it eventually. Just needs thoughtful driving, taking a bit more care than without the tow. So now outings to various nearby lakes or Pacific coast won't seem like much of a long tow! ;-) Specs of tow vehicle: base model Outback wagon, 2.5L engine, 165 HP rated, 5 speed manual transmission. Official tow rating is max 2000 lbs. load, max 200 lbs. tongue weight. Has overload rear springs (std. height) from RalliTek: http://www.rallitek.com/lifted-springs-kits/5634-rallitek-rear-overload-spri... Front brakes are high carbon disks and ceramic pads (in plain English, a small upgrade from original equipment). Hitch rig is this one: http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hitch/Subaru/Outback+Wagon/2001/90176.html?v... ...which I installed myself some time ago, easy-peasy. Along with electrical rig identified on etrailer.com - the car has a plug and play plug, no splicing or manual wiring required. Sometime fairly soon I will try and get the boat & trailer on a scale and see what it actually weighs. Also sometime soon I will be doing the boat ramp shuffle, so will see how it handles that part. cheers, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com