Hi Guys... Thanks for the kind words about Seranita gents! Bill, regarding your question and to the fact you already got it figured out before I got back to the list...yes, the hawes is simply like a capped opening which leads my chain and rode right down to the forwardmost portion of the vberth and I keep it in a small crate behind the pillows in the photo. My eventual plan was to glass in a shelf with a four or five inch lip that would eliminate the need for the crate and also give me back the space in the berth. I have been trying to figure out how to dispense with the moisture generated with that plan. Presently, I use a plastic trash liner under the crate and a big beach towel under it which seems to suffice, although not the ideal scenario. JB