Tod, Thanks for your input, I'm pretty much a klutz but I'm looking forward to trying it and see how I do. With your info and Toms I think I will be ok if not the the good folks at Spring Cove Marina will be called in to save the day. I will let you guys know. Thanks Gary Valetti M17 1993 -----Original Message----- From: Tod <htmills@zoominternet.net> To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Apr 3, 2012 4:25 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: CB Pennant Hi, Gary If you have access to a sling for a short while, that would probably be a lot asier than blocking up the boat. I blocked mine up to do it, and it is a fair mount of work. If blocking, time and preparation isn't an issue, but if using a sling, I'm sure t would be best to have everything ready to go to minimize time/cost. · I'd have a good step ladder handy, preferably at least 5 or 6 feet all. · I'd have the new pendant ready. Better long than short. I would hink 7’ would be good. · To de-core the tail on double-braid, take a freshly cut end (don't elt or whip it), slide the outer cover back, exposing the core. (it is easy, hink how a Chinese finger-trap gets looser when "compressed"). I would expose aybe 8" or so of core; better a little long than short because you can always rim any extra after threading into place and tying the knot. Then slide the uter braid back down past the core. Tightly wrap the outer braid near it's end ith masking tape and with a sharp knife on a block of wood, trim the end, utting a sliver of the masking tape too. That gives you a nice compact emporary end that won't fray, kind of like the ends of a shoelace. · Untie the stopper knot(s) in the existing pendant, tape end of new endant to end of old pendant, butt to butt. Tie a stopper knot in the end of he new pendant so it can’t slip all the way through accidently. Arrange on eat so it will (hopefully) feed smoothly down the c/b hole. Probably will end p having to “help” feed it, though. · Hoist/block boat. c/b will lower as the boat is lifted. Feed pull/push) pendants through to get to the end of the new pendant. Separate hem, if you were lucky enough they didn’t just pull apart. · Cut old pendant off. A screwdriver may be helpful to dig the knotted art out (mine was a snug fit!) · Thread the decored new pendant in and tie the same kind of knot as losely as you can. (IIRC, mine was just an overhand knot rather than a figure ). · Pull the knot tight, put some drops of epoxy or similar on the knot to elp keep it from accidently untying due to being trimmed so closely. · Cut the end off close (might add some more epoxy on the cut end) and tuff knot into position. · Pull the centerboard up and lower the boat. After launching, add the ntermediate stopper knot that prevents the c/b from lowering too far. No pins to pull. Tod
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of tommyval@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:18 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: CB Pennant
While on the subject of CB pennant replacement I am planning on replacing mine this spring and this is the plan, please feel free to correct me or add anything that I need to do that I might have missed.
place boat on blocks so CB can be completly dropped purchase about 7 feet of 5/16 line tape new line to old line and feed it thru decore new line (how is ths done?) attach new line to CB ( I have not done this before so can someone tell me if there is a pin that needs to be knocked out or what the proper way might be) tie in a fiqure 8 knot. be sure CB stopper knot holds the CB so it doesn't rest on the casing
Any and all advice is appreciated.
Thanks
Gary M17 1993
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Smith < <mailto:openboatt@gmail.com> openboatt@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Apr 3, 2012 2:43 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: CB Pennant
Sorry your question hasn't been addressed, Philip. What year is your 17? A couple important CB configurations over time... On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:00 AM, < <mailto:seable@lava.net> seable@lava.net> rote: Howzit?
Im close to re-launching my Hawaiian barnfind M17 which sat trailered under a mango tree for 6 years.
We much enjoy the O.G. banter and info; but havent yet heard an answer to my question about accessing the centerboard/pennant attachment point, (for that matter I havent seen a photo or drawing of the CB itself, or with trunk.)
Once shes off the trailer, can I lower the CB and replace the pennant underwater? Conversely, while the aft end of the CB rests on the trailer, can I drift out the pin to drop the front enough for the job? So Ill be repared, what is the optimum pennant length and material/fastener?
Ive now heard of fixed keel and lifting bulb M17s. Ive got a 91 standard G CB and a gorgeous mahogany plank for a rudder which I hate to turn into a ick-up, until the first time I find a coral head!
Thanks for your help! AlooHa! Philipp @ SEABLE