Yeah, I was pretty pleased to acquire a newer main with three reefs with the boat. So far I've only used the first reef...not sure I want to be out on the water when the third might be required! Glad to have the option though. The 'small' jib has the Reggie Armstrong label on it, yes. It is rather stretched, and flappy in the leach, probably the original. I need to look again at the cruising jib (the big one) as I can't recall what maker was on it if any. I've only used it a few times so far. cheers, John S. On 10/04/2016 08:49 AM, swwheatley@comcast.net wrote:
Yes, early M17s usually carried Reggie Armstrong sails so your jib probably is original and your main is not.
At 42 years old, that jib has lived almost as many lives as a cat, but you probably knew that already.
Interesting that your main has 3 reefs. That 3rd reef would correspond with some pretty hardcore sailing.
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From: "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 6:07:31 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Some Waldo lake pix
It's an M-17...that may explain part of the difference...I'm 6' 3", if it were an M15 I'd have to be 5' 6"! :-)
It's hull #38, built in 1974. The M-17s had transom cutouts for quite a while, someone else may know when that changed.
No number on the sail as it's apparently not the original sail, or, numbers didn't get put on the original. It's not in great shape, but I think it's in too good of shape to be the original. The main is from North Sails - does anyone know what maker the original main would have been on a '74 M-17? The small jib is Reggie Armstrong which IIRC was an early sail supplier?
As to the hull color, I am nearly certain it is not the original. There are a few rub spots where a more orange color (not white) shows through. I wasn't sure what to make of that, until I looked at the MSOG photo site owner registry recently and saw another M17 with original "custom gelcoat" hull color given as "Tangerine" (Windsong, here: http://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Boats/boatsdetail.php?id=22), which in the photos looks pretty close to what is showing through the rub spots on my M17. This photo of "Dulce" shows a possibly similar orange-y red, prior to the repaint with the red Awlgrip: http://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/General/imageviewer.php?objectid=25&obj...
So I'm guessing I have an original "tangerine" hull gelcoat that at some point got painted over with the red you see. You can also see some duller looking, more reddish brown blotches here and there - again I'm not sure but it looks like they were attempts to cover rubbed areas or other small cosmetic finish defects with some other finish that didn't work out well visually. I'd love to have her hull perfectly bristol but my priority generally goes to sailing time and functional upgrades first... :-)
cheers, John S.
On 10/03/2016 02:29 PM, Steve Trapp wrote:
John, Thanx for the Waldo Lake photos. I notice that your M-15 is red and appears to have a cut out opening on the transom, different than my 1985 M-15 that is white with a solid (?) transom. What year was yours built? What are the numbers on your sail? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 1:01 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Some Waldo lake pix
A few shots from my recent Waldo lake trip. Ghosting; cruising; morning dew on coaming; nice anchorage.
cheers, John S.
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