For a few years I owned both an M-15 and a Vancouver 25 (imagine a pacific Seacraft Dana 24 but quirckily hand-built in Taiwan). Then, three years ago, I sold the M-15 after it had remained too-little used for too long. Now I'm wondering if that was such a smart idea. I really like my V-25, but I seem to spend far too much time solving problems. Engine problems, rig problems, replacing chain plates, finding a new propeller and shaft, new ports..... And so it goes. You're probably thing "Of _course_ there are always problems -- it's a boat", but the M-15 had few problems like this. A new centerboard and rebuilding the trailer was as far as it went. The M-15 felt rather small, though. At the boat show last year I spent rather a long time aboard the Com-Pac 23 thinking "I could live with this" but it's still pretty large. The only time I've been aboard an M-17 was at the show, and now I'm wondering about how that would work. What's the point of this message? Well... I'm asking for your thoughts. Did you downsize? Was it a good idea? What do you miss? And how about the M-17 itself -- My V-25 is pretty comfortable, but perhaps all that I really missed with the M-15 was having somewhere inside with sitting headroom. Rather a large favor, but if anybody has an M-17 that I could visit, and perhaps sail aboard I would be very grateful, and very pleased to let you try my V-25 if that was of interest (I live in McLean VA and Dolphin lives in Deale MD). Nothing is for sale or actively sought to buy, but I must admit that I'm wondering.... Giles Morris Still missing M-15 Umiaq Enjoying Vanvouver 25 Dolphin