We are under 23 feet (except for you lucky M23 owners ;-) so we don't legally need any of that on our 15's or 17's. One all-around white light is sufficient; a headlamp/flashlight shone on the sail is sufficient. Also when anchored outside designated anchoring areas, all around white light, adequately visible. Does not have to be on masthead; in practical terms, no need to be higher than on a small power boat at anchor. I mention this because having a hard-wired light on the mast can be a pain, especially for trailer-sailors who rig up and down frequently. Some already have all that in working order, so no additional hassle there. And if the boat is in the water for the whole season, no big deal to connect and disconnect once a year. But if it's not already installed, and one rigs up and down frequently, different story. My M17 came with the stock/OEM bow bi-color and white stern lights. All I need is an all-around white and I'm set. It could be a separate portable battery powered one, or one that plugs into house wiring, like on a stick with a socket in convenient place, or clip to a shroud or pulpit or aft end of boom or run it up the burgee line if you have one... cheers, John On 12/28/20 5:47 PM, Keith R. Martin wrote:
Hi Jim,
For sailboats less than 12 meters like the monty's, you can use a tri-color on the masthead when sailing, and when under motor power using deck level navigation lights and an all round white up on the top of the mast, the allround whitecan also double as an Anchor light.
This is the configuration I use with my M17 -> http://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/StoryTechnical/storytechnicaldetail.php...
cheers,
Keith
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 17:34, Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Thanks again skipper
I would like any details u could provide. I might install a tri color light at the mast head only for sailing. I like height for visibility
For power I would switch to the navigation lights on the deck, the stern light, and the steaming light about 3/4 up the mast.
It wont hurt my feelings if you point out the error in my thinking
Capt Jim
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Jim:
A tricolor at the masthead is ONLY for sailing
For motoring the white light needs to be a meter or more above the red and green
Use a bicolor bow light (mounted on the bow pulpits best IMO) and the anchor light (360 white) at the masthead.
There are some local variations but the above is the federal standard.
If you want more details about setting up a running light system let me know.
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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 4:59 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Do any of you skippers have your navigation (red and green) lights installed on top of the mast? It seems to be illegal when powering when the steaming light is on . I thought the steaming light was to be above the navigation lights. Also are deck mounted navigation lights installed at 112/2 = 56 (not 90) deg off Hull CL? I am outfitting Pelican to navigate in the steamer lanes off Channel Islands. The container ship needs to see me in time to change course. LOL
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