Bree's book was one that I read "back then," to keep a realistic perspective about Superior.? I later saw his 20-foot homemade (plywood)?boat in a slip at a Twin Cities lake, and tried to imagine getting comfortable on it during some of his encounters with the lake.? He was (maybe still is . . . I've lost track of him) a perennial regular on the book-reading circuit around here.? A character. I stumble-surfed across this page, in which he writes about sailing the Apostles and about the Bayfield area: http://www.sailingbreezes.com/Sailing_Breezes_Current/articles/June03/bree.h... -----Original Message----- From: Tim Diebert <tim@timtone.com> To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 6:30 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Midwest Montys meet in the Apostles? I am right in the middle of Marlin Bree's book, "In the Teeth of the Northeaster". Solo sailing on Lake Superior. According to Marlin there are thousands of ships on the bottom of the Great Lakes. Oddly enough, there was a short documentary on this topic on TV a week ago. Turns out the very first ship to get to that area went down! Per square mile, there is no body of water on the planet with as many sad tales. At least according to this documentary. As a kid, I lived for two years in Southern Ontario (airforce brat) on Lake Ontario and witnessed a storm that is yet to be matched (during my time and travels) in nearly 40 years. And don't get me started on the bugs....... -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Paint4Real@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:16 PM To: bownez@juno.com; montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Midwest Montys meet in the Apostles? I've chartered in the Apostles a number of times and overnighted in anchorage off Stockton, but always in boats in the 27-30' range, which always seemed adequate but I never took them for granted and even a 29 with a lot of grinders aboard needs to be reefed sometimes. On one Stockton visit, we did spot what appeared to be a Potter at anchor, and though it looked small across the bay, it was likely a 19. I had already resolved never to take my young kids far out on Superior in my M15, given the lake's frigid temperature and concomitant hazards of MOB -- especially skipper overboard. But I always remained open to having a go myself in my M15. Yet I wonder if some of you have experience or thoughts on whether it would be foolhardy to take such a small boat out to the islands. For those of you reading who are not familiar with Superior, it's not a lake, it's an inland sea, and there are certainly dozens and likely hundreds of oceangoing vessels lying on its floor. Its waters are breathtakingly cold y ear-round. I have anchored in the lee on one of the islands, thinking all was well, and checked at 2 a.m. to find that every boat in the bay had swung 180 degrees with a change in weather. It seems that most folks responding are in at least 17s, which is quite a bit more boat than a 15. Have any readers taken a 15 out into the Apostles? Any reports would be welcome. Obviously I'll have to make my own assessment about skills and comfort level, both of which are high, but I also have lots of things to do yet in this ever-shortening passage and I don't need to be proving myself in high-risk adventures. And just as obviously, on site conditions will have to be assessed at the time of departure. All that being said, sailing the Apostles has provided the highlights of 30 years of inland sailing, and it's been a long time since I've been able to get up there. Steven "Shenanigans" M15, #324 (1985) ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1569 - Release Date: 7/23/2008 1:31 PM _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats