Hi Ron I actually built that custom M_17 interior. Duckwords did a good story on her. The owners son did the detailing; I have photos of her. A totally custom interior for two. Fair winds Bob (949) 489-8227
From: ronkeeler@hotmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:03:30 +0000 Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fwd: research
I am also a large person and have not found a comfortable place to sleep or for more than one person to sit below on my galley model M17. I feel that setting up a boat under 20 feet for more than two people to sleep in the cabin is just not practical. A good boom tent would allow two more to sleep in the cockpit for overnight "camping" but that is all.
Some months ago, duckworks magazine had an article about a new M17 which was built with an arch suporting the mast step instead of a compression post and no interior joinerwork. The new owner's son installed an interior with no V berth and two longer quarter berths aft of the arch. Forward of the arch, there were storage/galley cabinets on either side and a cabinet with hinged lid for the head forward and a chain locker in the very bow. The setup was for his parents to have comfortable sea berths and sitting room below for overnight offshore passages.
I printed off the article and am seriously considering converting "Griselda", my M17, to that configuration. I have not been able to access the archives for duckworth magazine to get another copy but I suspect Chuck Leinweber of Duckworks could help if you want a copy. If not, perhaps Bob Eeg at Montgomery has some information. Another (larger) example of that interior configuration is the 23 foot Rob Roy canoe yawl which, is one of the few boats I might consider giving up my M17 for.
Whitebeard
M17 #14, Griselda
From: htmills@zoominternet.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:20:47 -0400 Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fwd: research
If you search through the archives (seems like maybe the last of the MON), there is an article about someone who added a flap to the end of their v-berth to make it about 9" longer or so...
Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats- bounces+htmills=zoominternet.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats- bounces+htmills=zoominternet.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of zimco Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:01 AM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fwd: research
HOWARD,
I have the same galley model M17. I also sail on Puget Sound .
Your comments about missing a comfortable place to sit below are so true.
Sleeping in the v-berth for a fellow my size is not great either.
My current experiment is to lengthen the quarter berth. I have borrowed some of the storage space below the v-berth for that purpose. So far it looks promising.
Lon
Selkie M17 #279 ========================
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On the wet cockpit business, mine used to get wet before I started moving stuff forward to get the weight forward (sails better that way) and I can't remember the last time the cockpit was wet while underway. If I load her heavy to the stern, she will squat, but normally, no water. Having those old style drains are not the best. Would prefer drains above the waterline out the stern. Holes in the boat below the waterline and all that.
I have the galley model and use the sink drain to wash up in (also a great place to store stuff like water bottles) and the platform for my one burner stove. I have the aluminum toe rails and use those. The only thing I miss is a place to comfortably sit below while waiting for the rain to stop or hiding out from the mosquito swarms at night. I've even tried a small lawn chair but no joy. At 6' and 195, most of the time I'm sitting hunched over or crawling around on my knees.
I'd also beef up the stop on the CB if you go to using a heavy metal one again. Possibly allow for a group 27 battery box to get a little more life out of the battery. Mine will only hold a group 24. More electronics these days. LED lights might help that, but fewer cell phones, VHS radios, GPS, depth sounders, etc. isn't going to happen.
Howard 1978 M17, #278 (built in 2/78) Audasea
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