I appreciate that, Scott, because I'm pretty happy with my Nissan 4-horse 4-stroke and my only buyer's remorse would be if a smaller, lighter engine could've done the job. Went for the last sail of this (Michigan) season Friday night . . . 20-knot winds and 35-degree temps (wind chill?) . . . The Nissan started in the frigid cold after a few pulls, after not having been used for two weeks! Mainsheet, which had inadvertently been "wetted", was frozen stiff by the time we returned to the dock after about 1 1/2 hrs bitter cold sailing . . . We were sailing the only boat on the lake . . . We were proud of the fact that, for the first time, we out-macho'd the fishermen! --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wilsometer@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: New old M-17 In a message dated 11/1/03 10:22:03 AM, chonshell@ia4u.net writes: Wish I'd known this before I bought my 4-horse . . . Personally, where outboards are concerned, I think smaller is better . . . I would prefer to mount the smallest motor that would work . . . Craig, I guess I will have to be the voice of descent here. I don't think 2HP is adequate for what you might encounter in your sailing area--the Great Lakes. It would seem that you have exactly the appropriate combination of power and features for your application. Scott, M15 #478 'bebe'