jerry lee: if you take some pictures and share i can share a better opinion. my M17's cleats, bow and stern, are plenty strong and i wouldn't be worried using any of the three for anchoring. i generally don't use two anchors, but do use the stern cleats for setting the anchor as it is easier to do this when single handing (which is how i usually cruise). you can see SWEET PEA's cleats (if you look closely) in this picture - http://m17-375.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=40026912 i wouldn't use the cleats for anchoring in a hurricane ... it is a trailer sailor so put it on a trailer and head inland ;-) i'm not in colorado at the moment. i'll be back in golden late next week and can take pictures of my M17's cleat setup if you would like to see better pictures than the one linked above.
each side of the cockpit walls (is that called a gunwale?)
these are called the cockpit combing. there isn't a true gunwale (or gunnel) on the M17. IMO the closest item to a gunnel/gunwale is the toe rail and/or the hull-to-deck joint. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Sun, 5/6/12, Jerry Lee Hi-Kick Racing <hikickracing@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you David. I meant to say "pulpit". The bow cleat is amidships and is a large horn cleat; perhaps 8 inches long. stern cleats are mounted on each side of the cockpit walls (is that called a gunwale?) but a lot smaller; half the size. The pulpit had really bad backing (medium sized washers) and shoddy caulking (leaked through to the cabin), so I installed big fender washers and re-did the caulking for now (I plan to eventually put in a proper aluminum plate, and I have to check on the balsa). I think I will just attach it to the bow cleat.
I will check the backing plates on the padeyes (I referred to them as U-bolts earlier) also. Thank you for the advice, and the kind words about my blog
Sincerely, Jerry Lee
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:10 PM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jerry Lee:
congrats on your new-to-you boat.
cleats in port and stbd side at the stern
there are some differences between M17s based on how jerry M. built them and what owners have done.
the method used to attach the bow cleat to the deck is the same as the stern cleats. are your stern and bow cleats different sized? are they a 'horn' cleat that is clear anodized aluminum?
hawspipe through the deck.
this is a modification done by a prior owner. jerry M. would not have done this.
Also, how should I go about getting jacklines installed? ... I see one U-bolt on the sides of the cockpit, and eyelets at the bowsprit. Do I run them between the two?
jerry, in practice, didn't install any u-bolts for jacklines on his boats. i would check the one you have on your boat and see if it looks to be strong enough and has a good sized backing plate.
by 'bowsprit' do you mean bow pulpit? i would insect the condition of the washers used to hold the pulpit to the deck before relying on the pulpit to hold your weight. you could, if the the bow cleat is well backed, tie one end of the jackline there.
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nice blog. keep at it as i enjoyed your writings.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com