Hi Howard, Haven't heard of Ullman sails in quite a while. I will look them up about the 60%. I never EXPECT to be out in 25-30 knot winds, but....... Nice to know the 17 can still sail into them in such conditions. Tom B On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Howard Audsley <haudsley@tranquility.net> wrote:
Tom B:
My for my M17, I had Ullman build me a 60% storm jib that I fly with a double reefed main. Just a skimpy little blade. With that setup, I've been in 25 to 30 knots and gusting higher and in control. May not seem like much sail, but in those conditions, it was plenty. (5.5 knots into the wind, 6 knots plus with it and 2 knots with the wind under bare poles).
Howard
On Mar 12, 2015, at 12:10 PM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, Tom. I have flown jibs with a pendant before. Reefing the main sounds like a good idea always. A double reef sometimes maybe? How long are the supports (cannot think of that term) for the roach on the jib? I once had a row of reef points put in a 110 jib when I owned a Flicka. That worked quite well also, it let the boat sail on her lines better in a stiff wind. Be very interesting to see how high I could point with an 80 in front of a reefed main with a barber hauler closing the angle to about 10degrees on the jib. Fun in little boats!
Fair winds, Tom B
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Tom Smith <openboatt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tom. I've sailed under small headsail alone a few times (the boat still points quite well...), but prefer to reef the main when sailing in higher winds. The luff of the jib Don built for me is a foot or 18 inches short of the full length of the fore-stay, and I use a length of pendent at the tack so I have a bit of viewing distance under the sail. Works good, and I understand most of the work is being performed at the top of the sail anyway. t
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Don Yager sent me a description of the 80% jib he built for Tom Smith. It sounds "bomb proof" and of excellent quality. He said I could use it to sail back (up wind) when conditions did not permit use of an outboard, too much wave action I presume. Tom or anybody, have you used just a jib to sail to windward in blustery conditions? Seems like with the lee helm generated (?) you couldn't point very high with just that jib set. Is that "80" cut high enough so you can see under it when heeled over? It is pricey but having been blown down wind from my take out point at one time (was not flying a jib, just the main on my 17) I know that isn't much fun.
fair winds, Tom B, Mont.17 #258, "AS IS"