Is anyone actually looking at/using the archives of this list? I've hosted mailman groups for decades. In most cases the archive is barely or not at all used. One can sort a given month's posts by thread, subject, author, or date, but that's it - no all-archive search functionality. And if attachments are not archived then one has to save those oneself if one wants them later. If attachments are archived, it can eat up drive space and still not be that accessible. So if nobody much cares about the current archives, and/or their usefulness is limited, and/or archiving is not even turned on in recent years, there's nothing much to lose, it would seem, if we shifted to groups.io. And, if we just want a simple listserv (e-mail list) for this kind of communication, this does that fine. As I understand it this list is a volunteer/freebie hosted by a member, which is great. Myself, I save any posts and/or attachments that I want for future reference, since I know that volunteer resources can vanish at any time, for the best of reasons even. If this was a larger community of owners, it might be worth it to have a wordpress/buddypress (or equivalent platform) website of our own (think membership website + social media functionality, everything from posting your pics & projects in your own shared space to a forum-type interface for various conversations). At this point that functionality is scattered among FB users, email list users, and the MSOG photo site. Which is not a "problem" - just means some of us miss out on some of what's going on depending on which of those we use or pay attention to. My 20 cents... cheers, John On 12/31/19 1:18 PM, Dave Scobie wrote:
Rusty and others:
Groups.io does essentially the same service as what we currently have through mailman software on xmission. the groups.io interface is nicer when visiting the groups www-site..
i don't know how much data (ie archives size) the email group has. over 1GB means minimum charge of $220/year for storage on groups.io.
migrating the members is a challenge. my experience is a group hostingand/or software change results in significant loss in group membership - like 85-90% for the i've taken part in a 'move'!!!
i also hate the idea of loosing the archives (though the recent data isn't currently being saved as I understand, only the really old stuff has been retained). i don't know if groups.io can transition anything in the mailman database. based on the yahoo.groups changes these last few months at minimum the charge will be $220.
the list isn't heavily used. the participation rate has really fallen off since about 2014/15. most of the activity is on the group site on Facebook (link - https://www.facebook.com/groups/330782353662726/ )
thoughts from the members?
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:06 AM Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
You should be using the groups io site instead of this!
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