I've actually made and used one of 2x4 lumber. 2 studs planed, bonded, and fastened together face to face. Bolted a 2" coupler to one end, and a handle from the hardware store at the balance point. Slide the trailer end underneath the existing tongue to abut the existing skid (or whatever that triangular thing that rests on the ground is called), then clamp to the trailer tongue forward of there. A notch in the studs for the clamp keeps it from pulling forward, and the skid keeps it from pushing aft. Not very elegant, and slow since I have to run down the nuts on the clamps each time, but it's worked the two times I've tried it. Not what I consider a permanent solution, but it was pretty cheap. ~ John Tyner M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tynerjr=md.metrocast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tynerjr=md.metrocast.net@mailman.xmissi on.com]On Behalf Of chbenneck@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:42 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: tongue extension Hi Dan, I had my welding shop add an 8 foot long trailer tongue extension to my Trailrite trailer. The shop welded a "U" on the bottom side of the trailer tongue. The 8 foot long square tube aft end fitted into the "U" to hold the back end in place. They welded on a trailer ball to the upper side of the extension, which mated with the receiver on the Trailrite trailer. With the extension ball locked in the Trailrite receiver, you now have a nice rigid extension. The end of the extension had another receiver to fit your trailer ball, on your car or truck I found the 8 foot extension extremely useful when launching on a shallow ramp. You could float the M15 without getting the tires wet, or dipping the end of the car in the water. The only problem you'll have is that the extension tube will hit the high point of the ramp as you back down with the trailer. It will scrape, but it's a very minor inconvenience. When not in use, I held the tongue extension in place on the trailer frame using a trailer "U" bolt with wing nuts. This keeps the extension locked in place. I used a bungee cord to fasten the aft end of the tube to the trailer frame. A piece of outdoor carpet under the tube will ease the ride. A trailer tongue extension makes launching and retrieving much easier, if you are driving a passenger car, as I was (VW Jetta wagon). Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats