Hi all: I store my M15 on its trailer all winter and summer. I make sure the front of the trailer at the hitch is as low as it can go so that any water pooling in the cockpit drains out near the CB. I keep the boat under a heavy duty tarp draped over the mast like a giant tent. Been protected from snow, rain, leaves, ice. So far after 5 years, no damage to boat anywhere. In fact I sail all winter and when I go out the boat is dry when I check it weekly or every few days. Having the bow lower than the stern works like a charm. Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/ "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On Jun 27, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> wrote:
Art, I’m considering a standard bilge mounted system as well. At the risk of rousing the ire of dedicated Monty’s, the cockpit centerplate drain system is problematic. Too slow, prone to clogging, allows accumulation of water at the rear of cockpit well as the boat squats, especially with two crew. The worse when the CB opening squirts, and the water runs aft. Stern scuppers through the transom are easy to install but without a valve system are also problematic for me. My caution is that all traditional scupper systems work best when the hoses are crossed to the opposite side , and MUST HAVE seacocks with quick access .To that point if I do it I’ll cut out the molded tray which my 15 has, put a flange on it, and so make a removable tray to provide access. Disclaimer: this is MY solution, not a mandate or judgement about the design, which has many excellent qualities. I come from an ocean sailing background. To the contrary, In times past people crossed oceans in many deep, non drained , or poorly drained cockpit boats, such as the early Folkboat. Ocean Cruising standards require FOUR two inch drains for a cockpit the size of an M-15’s. Me, I’m past ocean dreaming, but am tired of squirts and dribbles accumulating. Peace, Ed
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On Jun 27, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
IMO no reason to have water coming into the boat when she is sitting on a trailer. If you are getting water you have a deck leak that needs to be found and repaired.
My MBoats and Sages never had issue with water in the bilge.
Adding a below waterline hole is adding complication and worry IMO.
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On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 9:33 AM Sailing Spark <arthaberland@gmail.com> wrote:
Like I am sure many of you do, my M17 spends the winter on her trailer (she's actually been on her trailer for over a year now thanks to the pandemic) and I was considering a garboard drain to keep water from pooling inside while she is stored.
I had one in my old SeaSprite 23 with it's long and deep keel, it did a good job of keeping any water that got past the companionway from filling up the bilge and I was considering doing this to the Monty as well.
Has anybody done so?
Art M17 #406